At the end of the last interview of the Department of Interior's IG Office with Charles Monnett, David Brown, the Special Agent in Charge pin dances with Monnett's lawyer, Jeff Ruch from PEER:
Jeff Ruch: All right. The second thing, I guess, I was unclear of is, you said you were going to -- it was going to become obvious what the charges were with respect to the University of Alberta contract. I still don't know what the criminal --And Charles M sums it up
David Brown: I think I said what it was -- it would be obvious what this is about.
Jeff Ruch: Oh.
David Brown: I never said anything about charges.
Jeff Ruch: So, what is the criminal offense? Why would there have been a criminal referral?
David Brown: Why would there have been a criminal referral concerning the contract issues?
Jeff Ruch: Yes. As your notice stated. Why would you have done that if there was no crime?
David Brown: Well, that's -- you know, that's your opinion as to --
Jeff Ruch: And I ask -- I'm not expressing an opinion. I'm asking what is the criminal offense that would have justified referral?
David Brown: Well, potentially there's lots of criminal offenses when you're dealing with contract issues. There's false statements. There are potential bribery issues. There's false claim issues. So, you know, depending how the fact patterns are is what the -- what a potential crime could be.
Jeff Ruch: And what was the referral based on in this case?
David Brown: I think I -- you asked me that in the beginning, if I was going to provide you with that information and I said no.
Jeff Ruch: Well, actually, you said the opposite. You said it was going to become obvious from the questions, and it didn't become obvious from the questions.
David Brown: That isn't -- that wasn't my understanding of your question. My understanding of your question was, you know, what's this about, what are the issues involving the contract about. I think we -- it's perfectly clear through the questioning from Rich Larrabee as to what our concerns were with that contract. What -- my communications with the US Attorney's Office and the Department of Justice is not -- I'm not going to divulge that.
Charles Monnett: Well, I'm just surprised you think this is so important that you have created as much chaos in, you know, the marine mammal research program. You really have done a lot of damage.
David Brown: Is there anything else? We can conclude?