It's pretty much inevitable that the Heartland gang has their own list or lists wherein they collate their nonsense and try to hush up its bizarre contradictions. I suspect they also have some political list which dreams up and coordinates their random ambushes on innocents and serious researchers.After Eli wrote that there is a well known ClimateSkeptics Yahoo group that has some of these characteristics and others pointed out that Morano sends out daily hit lists, la Belle Dame demanded Eli sojourn there and find
a list matching the characteristics suggested by Michael Tobis existed. Based on MT’s comment, these are:Arthur Smith, in an Email to Eli, summed it up perfectly
- The list belongs to the “Heartland gang” and/or
- the function of the list is to “they collate their nonsense and try to hush up its bizarre contradictions.” and ,
- they also have some political list which “dreams up and coordinates their random ambushes on innocents and serious researchers.”.
"Oh, what a mind-bending thread of discussion. Lucia is as usual tryingThose bunnies who remember the recent political campaign (wherever you are) recognize Lucia's trick. Define something your opponent has said, awkwardly enough that you can say anything you want about it. It's not what is said, but figuring out where the twist is that tells the story. In this case, the take away is from what is not said and how it is not said
to persuade all and sundry to believe her and not their lying eyes or
brains which just happened to read something that seems to directly
contradict what she is claiming. How do you manage to engage there and
- Lucia was a member or is aware of a list or network of correspondents that more or less matches what Michael was talking about
- That the list members discuss and polish various and sundry stuff related to some of the climate nonsense they are pushing
- That many of the members have participated in the Heartland Conferences, but the list was not necessarily organized by Heartland
and willard has been following tracks in the snow from Roman M and digging Lucia a fun Air Vent
Shortly after confirming the authenticity of the Climategate files, Mosher says he saw the link to the file on the Air Vent. “My first reaction to the link was relief,” he said. “I didn’t want to be the only person who had these files and the task of plowing through all the mails was overwhelming.”
Mosher understood the power of the peer-to-peer review network. The task of mining the emails for relevant data could only be undertaken by the group that had been closely monitoring the workings of the global warming establishment. Once the link was on the Air Vent, Mosher hit the ground running. He simultaneously informed Jeff Id and Lucia Liljegren of the existence of the link on the blog.
Here’s the question:
> Is this the mailing list [http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics/] that Andrew Montford mentioned in his book?
Here’s the first answer I got:
> That’s the group [http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics/]. I just got admitted.
Here’s another answer I got:
> I meant that the link you provide is the one Eli provided.
Here’s now the answer I get:
> I interpreted your question asking whether the link Eli provided and Montfords book as raising the possibility that it was.