Tuesday, June 10, 2014

Bleg: foreigners, especially Indians or Chinese, arguing their countries should do nothing on climate because of American emissions

Bit of an experiment. I'm interested in internal climate policy debates in other countries where someone prominent takes the same position the Republican leadership is taking today, that we should do nothing because foreign bogeyman is worse, except that the bogeyman is the US. It's Indians and Chinese that the Republicans usually identify as the bogeymen, so they'd be the ideal examples.

I know the UN forums will have plenty of examples of diplomats telling other countries that they should do more or should go first, but I'm looking for internal debates that parallel Republican arguments for inaction. I realize that Chinese debates would be hard to get, but maybe not impossible, even if it's just Chinese policy academics arguing with each other.

Desmog has an okay example of Canadian officials saying Canada should act in concert with the US and not move forward unilaterally, but the ideal example would be more angry and blame-spouting. And Chinese.


The Old Man is back said...

Not exactly what you asked for, but a useful starting point for local context, with the section on sustainability quite relevant...

The Old Man is back said...

Also, here:

Anonymous said...

No, the real reason to do nothing is that no one can clearly identify an objectively measurable harm to be avoided.

Further, since population tends to decline among economically developed countries, perhaps they are correct - development is more sustainable in the long run than lack of development.


Brian said...

As this is a bleg, I beg people to ignore Johan's diversion and stick to the topic. Thanks.

The Old Man is back said...

These people might be able to help:


US Office; 145 West 58th Street, 2A, New York City, NY, 10019, USA

Telephone+1 (646) 233 0550


Tis the Manhattan Institute talking.

J Bowers said...

China Climate Change Info-Net might be informative.


To be honest, there ight not be much debate in China, given the nature of China's political system. It's all about the five year plans as far as I can tell. You could always try Wikileaks?

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