It's a long story, but DuPont pretty quickly figured out which end was up. Eli heard the story from Sherry Rowland (not a friend, but a friend of many friends).
If nothing else, the valuable patents on the CFCs had long gone and what was left was not worth much (everyone was making the stuff).
Eli, Shewonk is not above making mistakes and always appreciates bunnies who know better and can offer corrections. As long as there is no dunce cap involved because while she likes hats, she always looks ridiculous in pointy ones...
Shewonk, I strongly recommend the book "Ozone Diplomacy", by Richard E. Benedick, Harvard University Press 1991. Benedick was the principal US representative at the negotiations that resulted in the Montreal Protocol. If I had to list any single reference as indispensable for understanding how the Montreal Protocol came to pass, this would be it.
And it continues to wake up: Solar Flux 125, sunspot number 101. While that is a point position not a monthly average, it is realy huge compared to where solar cycle 24 has been till now.
J Bowers wrote, "Are these people really trying to kill us all?"
I've wondered that myself on numerous occasions. Possibly lizard people from another planet walking around in human skins trying to eliminate us so that they can have the Earth for themselves. Might also explain why they personally don't see global warming as much of a threat. Lizard people could no doubt use the extra heat.
However, my wife tells me that while they have the Congress the Democrats still have the Senate, and like their attacks on Planned Parenthood this is dramatic but doesn't really have much chance for success. But it is a harbinger of bad things to come. Funding will probably get severely cut.
Eli Rabett, a not quite failed professorial techno-bunny who finally handed in the keys and retired from his wanna be research university. The students continue to be naive but great people and the administrators continue to vary day-to-day between homicidal and delusional without Eli's help. Eli notices from recent political developments that this behavior is not limited to administrators. His colleagues retain their curious inability to see the holes that they dig for themselves. Prof. Rabett is thankful that they, or at least some of them occasionally heeded his pointing out the implications of the various enthusiasms that rattle around the department and school. Ms. Rabett is thankful that Prof. Rabett occasionally heeds her pointing out that he is nuts.
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It was the liberal application of snake oil.
I don't care what defenses people may make for the sun, the sun is obviously being duplicitous here.
Eli, re-shewonk's error, what point was wrong?
I'm all for reducing the errors on ourside.
It's a long story, but DuPont pretty quickly figured out which end was up. Eli heard the story from Sherry Rowland (not a friend, but a friend of many friends).
If nothing else, the valuable patents on the CFCs had long gone and what was left was not worth much (everyone was making the stuff).
Thanks Eli.
I'm missing the aurora because it's raining and the clouds are too low - drat!
Eli, Shewonk is not above making mistakes and always appreciates bunnies who know better and can offer corrections. As long as there is no dunce cap involved because while she likes hats, she always looks ridiculous in pointy ones...
Eli needs to post more on this.
Odd thing about this flare--it came on a holiday...just like all the flares at the end of the last solar max--Bastille Day, Halloween...
Shewonk, I strongly recommend the book "Ozone Diplomacy", by Richard E. Benedick, Harvard University Press 1991. Benedick was the principal US representative at the negotiations that resulted in the Montreal Protocol. If I had to list any single reference as indispensable for understanding how the Montreal Protocol came to pass, this would be it.
Robert Parson
And it continues to wake up: Solar Flux 125, sunspot number 101.
While that is a point position not a monthly average, it is realy huge compared to where solar cycle 24 has been till now.
Little Mouse
http://initforthegold.blogspot.com/2011/02/motion-to-defund-ipcc-passes-us-house.html
Are these people really trying to kill us all?
Discover:
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2011/02/19/house-of-representatives-votes-to-defund-ipcc/
Comments have a ding-dong going on. Motl chips in, too.
This day will live in infamy.
House votes 244-179 to kill U.S. funding of IPCC
http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/2011/02/19/house-votes-244-179-to-kill-u-s-funding-of-ipcc/
You are right,; it was today.
J Bowers wrote, "Are these people really trying to kill us all?"
I've wondered that myself on numerous occasions. Possibly lizard people from another planet walking around in human skins trying to eliminate us so that they can have the Earth for themselves. Might also explain why they personally don't see global warming as much of a threat. Lizard people could no doubt use the extra heat.
However, my wife tells me that while they have the Congress the Democrats still have the Senate, and like their attacks on Planned Parenthood this is dramatic but doesn't really have much chance for success. But it is a harbinger of bad things to come. Funding will probably get severely cut.
I like Pangolin's take, with reference to The Mote in God's Eye, at MT's:
"The Republican Party has "gone Crazy Eddie" and have decided to scuttle the planet instead of bailing."
'Climate Crazy Eddie' has a certain ring to it ;)
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