tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post8004339085864032947..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: There Is No Free Lunch, But How About Two Free Dinners and Your Name on the Heartland Institute's NIPCC Report.EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-32090931175501621882013-08-22T11:06:31.000-04:002013-08-22T11:06:31.000-04:00Here's the commeent censored by Lakely :
Lak...Here's the commeent censored by Lakely :<br /><br />Lakely writes : <br />" Nobody Dr. Singer contacted would have agreed to be listed without reading the portions of manuscript that fell into their area of scientific specialty, and none did."<br /><br />Though at least one erstwhile reviewer of the first edition was legally blind when "shown" the manuscript on his deathbed, there's no doubting that it made a profound impression.<br /><br /><br /> He died the next day.<br /><br />THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9315019188988436402013-08-22T03:08:08.931-04:002013-08-22T03:08:08.931-04:00I personally love the paragraph where Mr Lakely ca...I personally love the paragraph where Mr Lakely catalogs the IPCC report as "political". He conveniently forgets to mention which country has screamed the most for "revisions" during the last IPCC report. <br />Saudi Arabia. <br />I really wonder why. <br /><br />BratislaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24710922493413154612013-08-21T22:26:00.431-04:002013-08-21T22:26:00.431-04:00Let's all hop over to the Heartland Blog where...Let's all hop over to the Heartland Blog where the bunnies can point this out to Jim. Of course, he may not post your comments, but then we can twitter about his not wanting to talk about this.....<br /><br />http://blog.heartland.org/2013/08/silly-rabett/<br /><br />You may twitter when you are ready, Eli:<br /><br />The lilly-livered Lakely has somewhat unreasonably refused to post my remarks on S.Fred's zombified peer review.<br /><br /><br />THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85078298440879377202013-08-21T21:35:45.067-04:002013-08-21T21:35:45.067-04:00Why is it that when I read anything by Jim Lakely ...Why is it that when I read anything by Jim Lakely <a href="http://howtopersuadepeople.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/how-to-negotiate-on-a-used-car-salesman.jpg" rel="nofollow">I automatically think of this</a>?<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4339593658541658222013-08-21T20:10:52.329-04:002013-08-21T20:10:52.329-04:00Thomas asks:
"It would be useful to get some...Thomas asks:<br /><br />"It would be useful to get some kind of evidence for the authenticity of the mail."<br /><br />Jim Lakely provides"<br />"Dr. Singer’s email was “leaked” and widely discussed around the time it was written, some four years ago, so this is hardly a bold new discovery. "<br /><br />Eli is a full service blog, we even get the people from Heartland to shoot themselves in the heart.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-75110711105028379902013-08-21T20:09:10.645-04:002013-08-21T20:09:10.645-04:00"Dr. Singer’s email was “leaked” and widely d..."Dr. Singer’s email was “leaked” and widely discussed around the time it was written, some four years ago, so this is hardly a bold new discovery."<br /><br />Anybunny remember that???EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-8077023137331709572013-08-21T18:44:57.679-04:002013-08-21T18:44:57.679-04:00Reading Mr. Lakely's teaser for the upcoming p...Reading Mr. Lakely's teaser for the upcoming power-packed scien-mo-tifical hoax-buster, I am reminded of one of the crank publications discussed by Martin Gardner in his book "Fads and Fallacies". The title page of said publication assured the reader that the text was "free of hi-de-hi mathematics" and "bristling with new axioms".Spilgardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-13435215641033809372013-08-21T16:27:36.077-04:002013-08-21T16:27:36.077-04:00" Anonymous said...
I love Jim Lakely's r..." Anonymous said...<br /><i>I love Jim Lakely's response: "All (or almost all) of the people Dr. Singer emailed had previously been sent some or all of the manuscript for review"<br /><br />The "almost all" is lawyer-speak that none of the people had seen it ..."</i><br /><br />A vile canard- far from failing to show it to some of his reviewers, S.Fred merely waited until they went legally blind. THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52633664476968157512013-08-21T16:17:07.907-04:002013-08-21T16:17:07.907-04:00Let's all hop over to the Heartland Blog where...Let's all hop over to the Heartland Blog where the bunnies can point this out to Jim. Of course, he may not post your comments, but then we can twitter about his not wanting to talk about this.....<br /><br />http://blog.heartland.org/2013/08/silly-rabett/EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-33175441403427234042013-08-21T13:15:06.873-04:002013-08-21T13:15:06.873-04:00The Wegman Report, commissioned by Congress ... &q...The Wegman Report, commissioned by Congress ... " <br /><br />Bwahahahahaha ...<br /><br />.... was a tendentious piece of plagiarism.<br /><br />TobyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-2095793568385552482013-08-21T08:31:46.677-04:002013-08-21T08:31:46.677-04:00Lakely adds another lie to the story. The Wegman r...Lakely adds another lie to the story. The Wegman report was not commissioned by congress, but by the Committee on Energy and Commerce, a committee of the House of Representatives, which even this non-American bunny knows not to be the same as Congress (twice over: the House of Representatives is just part of Congress, and the Committee is just a little part of the House of Representatives). Or will Lakely say that the NRC report was *also* commissioned by Congress and showed Mann in a much better light?<br /><br />MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-25786388673724131302013-08-21T05:34:46.727-04:002013-08-21T05:34:46.727-04:00In light of the HI's habit of recycling, I exp...In light of the HI's habit of recycling, I expect my rebuttal to the 2009 NIPCC version to still be relevant:<br />http://ourchangingclimate.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/the-nipcc-report/<br /><br />BartAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-59156576367319355432013-08-21T05:20:44.420-04:002013-08-21T05:20:44.420-04:00I'm confused that Lakely after complaining tha...I'm confused that Lakely after complaining that the IPCC report is too political chooses to refer us to the "The Wegman report, commissioned by Congress", as if the political nature in that case is a merit, rather than the apolitical NRC report.Thomasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-75120796698428001542013-08-21T03:54:03.562-04:002013-08-21T03:54:03.562-04:00> As devastating as Climate Change Reconsidered...> As devastating as Climate Change Reconsidered I and the 2011 Interm Report were, I’m told II is even better<br /><br />I'm all shaking in my bootsMartin Vermeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537045395760606324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91465231670556123492013-08-21T01:05:00.979-04:002013-08-21T01:05:00.979-04:00Mr Lakely,
Here's a quick summary of some iss...Mr Lakely,<br /><br />Here's a quick summary of some issues with the McIntyre/Wegman work (namely the "hockey sticks from random noise" bit).<br /><br />1) McIntyre relied on a 100:1 cherry-pick to get his “random noise” hockey sticks, per John Mashey above. (And yes, I confirmed this by looking that the R-code myself).<br /><br />2) His random noise was badly contaminated with “hockey-stick” signal statistics (i.e. he didn’t filter the hockey-stick out of the tree-ring data before he used it as a template for his random noise) -- also confirmed by looking at McIntyre's R-code.<br /><br />3) In spite of (1) and (2) above, McIntyre’s random-noise hockey sticks were *much* smaller than Mann’s genuine tree-ring hockey-stick. No competent analyst would confuse a McIntyre random-noise hockey stick with a genuine Mann tree-ring hockey stick.<br /><br />Mr Lakely, you "think" tank types (the scare-quotes are there for a reason) really ought to leave the climate-science to folks who don't f*&! up everything they touch.<br /><br />--caerbannogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-49099961157091382812013-08-21T00:50:28.154-04:002013-08-21T00:50:28.154-04:00Mr Lakely,
There's a nice discussion (in whic...Mr Lakely,<br /><br />There's a nice discussion (in which John Mashey and I participated) that highlights in plain English what is wrong with one of the main "hockey-stick" claims pushed by McIntyre/Wegman -- you can find it at this link: http://wottsupwiththatblog.wordpress.com/2013/07/10/debunking-the-hockey-stick/#comments<br /><br />There's the 100:1 cherry-pick as described by Mr. Mashey, the "hockey stick" contamination of what was supposed to be "random noise", the bit about failing to compare magnitudes of McIntyre's "random noise" eigenvalues vs. Mann's tree-ring-data eigenvalues.... the basic stuff that good students learn to sort out in Time-Series Analysis/Statistics 101.<br /><br />You know, you guys really ought to leave the climate-science to folks who don't completely f*&! up everything they touch. <br /><br />--caerbannogAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36710768410891287422013-08-20T23:48:30.635-04:002013-08-20T23:48:30.635-04:00I love Jim Lakely's response: "All (or al...I love Jim Lakely's response: "All (or almost all) of the people Dr. Singer emailed had previously been sent some or all of the manuscript for review"<br /><br />The "almost all" is lawyer-speak that none of the people had seen it ... Fred was fishing for co-authors.<br /><br />Jim: for having to defend people like Fred and the other d-bags at the HI, you win the "worst job in the world" award.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22738930235617159752013-08-20T22:49:54.417-04:002013-08-20T22:49:54.417-04:00Now some, not Eli to be sure, think that Jim Lakel...Now some, not Eli to be sure, think that Jim Lakely has reached the <a href="http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/232600.html" rel="nofollow">Geoffrey Howe</a> level of savagery. Eli is tickled. EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-68275411816522664152013-08-20T18:42:49.695-04:002013-08-20T18:42:49.695-04:00Jim, given Fred's habit of submitting his wor...Jim, given Fred's habit of submitting his works to moribund nonagenarians for the favor of review , we are deeply shocked by his failure to add more senior figures to the masthead. <br /><br />To raise the editorial tone of Fred's DIY peer review , you might drop a line to Edgar Cayce, ring up Mary Baker Eddy. or have Jay Lehr channel his oldnemesis, J. Edgar Hoover.<br /><br />THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43937607624062838182013-08-20T18:06:58.488-04:002013-08-20T18:06:58.488-04:00John Mashey,
Ever since Deep published that excel...John Mashey,<br /><br />Ever since Deep published that excellent exposé of McIntyre's fraudulent statistics behind the Wegman report, I always wonder why none of the ACC deniers will ever acknowledge that it has a serious credibility problem.<br /><br />But then... if they can't observe and at least personally acknowledge the obvious changes that are happening in the world all around them, I suppose that is a powerful demonstration of just how potent that whole 'blinded by their ideology' gig can be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-20602349628634261092013-08-20T16:47:20.214-04:002013-08-20T16:47:20.214-04:00Jim Lakely from The Heartland Institute here. Glad...Jim Lakely from The Heartland Institute here. Glad to see you’re all anxiously awaiting the release of Climate Change Reconsidered II. As devastating as Climate Change Reconsidered I and the 2011 Interm Report were, I’m told II is even better. But will your knives be long enough?<br /><br />Dr. Singer’s email was “leaked” and widely discussed around the time it was written, some four years ago, so this is hardly a bold new discovery. All (or almost all) of the people Dr. Singer emailed had previously been sent some or all of the manuscript for review, so it was appropriate for him to send them this invitation to be identified in the final product. Nobody Dr. Singer contacted would have agreed to be listed without reading the portions of manuscript that fell into their area of scientific specialty, and none did. <br /><br />By the way, the IPCC's method of listing contributors and reviewers is far worse since NONE of the people they list read (much less approved) the final version of the manuscript bearing their names. As you well know, IPCC reports are political documents, not science. They are revised to fit political agendas after the scientists finish their work. The IPCC just sent out a news release once again acknowledging that this is the case with its latest report. This is just one of the many procedural problems that render IPCC reports so unreliable. <br /><br />Michael Mann -- who helpfully alerted Heartland to this blog post on Twitter -- should be careful about promoting a commentary criticizing others over how one attracts co-authors and reviewers to scientific work. The Wegman report, commissioned by Congress, places Mann in a rather conspicuous glass house.<br />Jim Lakelyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09814066181312056690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6167103574586135692013-08-20T15:55:34.804-04:002013-08-20T15:55:34.804-04:00BTW Should that not be 'Nicola' and 'S...BTW Should that not be 'Nicola' and 'Scafetta' or have I missed something.Lionel Anoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-66265155072491048112013-08-20T11:09:10.809-04:002013-08-20T11:09:10.809-04:00Please ask Ethon to carry of the first draft Please ask Ethon to carry of the first draft THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18339028350947537012013-08-20T11:06:38.818-04:002013-08-20T11:06:38.818-04:00"Pls read the attached Preface and consider a...<i>"Pls read the attached Preface and consider adding yr name as a contributor/reviewer "</i><br /><br /><br />While this MO expains many a signature seen on past prefaces to Singer volumes it is no guarantee they read the things.<br /><br />Judging by his deader board members, he appears to view consensual silence and the silence of the grave as a continuum. THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-50377952871661570902013-08-20T10:52:52.384-04:002013-08-20T10:52:52.384-04:00"Pls read the attached Preface and consider a...<i>"Pls read the attached Preface and consider adding yr name as a contributor/reviewer "</i><br /><br /><br />While this MO expains many a signature seen on past prefaces to volumes collated by Singer, it is no guarantee that they read the things.<br /><br />This is especially true in the case of his deader board members.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.com