tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post5869844538711806836..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Bag JobEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5505239353934383192013-04-29T14:20:40.860-04:002013-04-29T14:20:40.860-04:00What about canvass bags? I prefer those because t...What about canvass bags? I prefer those because they're stronger, hurt my hands less to carry, and they don't disintegrate in the sun and heat of my car.Anglisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15316097692892419221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-21325888499741098082013-04-28T04:06:23.473-04:002013-04-28T04:06:23.473-04:00And when the LDPE bags' carrying days are over...And when the LDPE bags' carrying days are over we fill'em with straw and compost and grow potatoes in them.<br /><br />one_iotaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36756849747123853632013-04-26T13:01:27.275-04:002013-04-26T13:01:27.275-04:00Wow, I've been recycling plastic bottles ever ...Wow, I've been recycling plastic bottles ever since there were deposits on them, and return the plastic bags I occasionally get to the recycling container at the store. I use paper bags multiple times until they tear or the handles wear off. <br /><br />My main complaint about reusables is most are not as tall as a paper bag. The few that are I could only buy online, and were much more expensive.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-66920432860148060692013-04-26T09:14:32.666-04:002013-04-26T09:14:32.666-04:00If only Mr. McGuire in the movie "The Graduat...If only Mr. McGuire in the movie "The Graduate" had said "Hemp!" instead of "Plastics!" we wouldn't even be having this conversation.<br /><br />~@:>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4968333075202565272013-04-25T17:39:35.950-04:002013-04-25T17:39:35.950-04:00> ... what bags one is talking about
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&...> ... what bags one is talking about<br />> ...<br />> So ...<br /><br />Mmmm, I'll wait to see how may of -those- show up in the category of "what bags one is talking about" -- which would be:<br /><br />snagged on bushes around every hight water line.<br /><br />Watch that space, in a year or two or ten, and see how fast that stuff shows up, while the blooming plastic harvest we get now diminishes. <br /><br />Look at we get now, any creekbank after high water accumulates plastic bags like dandruff.Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6610663736227862222013-04-25T10:40:46.401-04:002013-04-25T10:40:46.401-04:00Plastic bags and bottle are just the tip of the ic...Plastic bags and bottle are just the tip of the iceberg.<br /><br />Here's an <a href="http://vimeo.com/midway/midwayfilm" rel="nofollow">uplifting video</a> about the environmental impacts of plastic.<br /><br />We are literally choking the life out of the planet. <br /><br />~@:><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-28508419430450910582013-04-25T10:14:45.861-04:002013-04-25T10:14:45.861-04:00I have to echo and emphasis Brian's point abou...I have to echo and emphasis Brian's point about plastics.<br /><br />Not included in the energetic cost is the environmental cost, which is wide-ranging and complex. I could wax lyrical about it, but it's easier to link to:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.jenniferlavers.org/plastic-pollution/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jenniferlavers.org/plastic-pollution/</a><br /><br />Entanglement, suffocation, gut impaction, chemical adsorption and concentration... there are many ways that plactics and the environment do not mix. If we followed the 'seven generations' philosophy, we'd probably be much more steam punk than melamine-and-styrene.<br /><br /><br />Bernard J.<br /><br />[I think, therefore I am not a robot.<br /><br />QED]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-66190167547873054192013-04-25T09:26:09.730-04:002013-04-25T09:26:09.730-04:00And then, of course, there are the bottles.
Gazil...And then, of course, there are the bottles.<br /><br />Gazillions of them, especially all those plastic water bottles.<br /><br />And only ten of the states have bottle bills , which really DO make a huge difference, between 30% and 70% recycled.<br /><br />That is how far we have not come in recent decades and does not bode well for the future.<br /><br />We have been having these conversations about bags and bottle laws FOREVER. <br /><br />These things (whether to use multiuse bags or throwaways and whether to recycle bottle and cans) are really no brainers. You don't need a detailed "analysis" to figure them out.<br /><br />By and large, we are a country of people who like to talk (and blog), but that's about it.<br /><br />PS: if you live in a state that does not have a bottle law, you share responsibility for getting one passed.<br /><br />~@:><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83795819582335388732013-04-25T01:08:04.341-04:002013-04-25T01:08:04.341-04:00Reuseables do better than I thought. I had heard a...Reuseables do better than I thought. I had heard a figure of about 30 reuses to make them better. Maybe that was cotton.<br /><br />And of course there's the issue of clogging creeks and mucking up the ocean food web.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-27106089318469197452013-04-24T23:52:19.929-04:002013-04-24T23:52:19.929-04:00What the?! I give up - I have no idea why that li...What the?! I give up - I have no idea why that link gets referred back here to blogger; ah, it doesn't have the magic url prefix, does it? So it's either <a href="http://www.environment.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/260752/12-26082_Plastic_bag_review_report.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>, or here it is ready for the old Ctrl+C Ctrl+V shuffle: <br /><br />www.environment.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/260752/12-26082_Plastic_bag_review_report.pdfbillnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-64409417323323205192013-04-24T23:46:46.831-04:002013-04-24T23:46:46.831-04:00D'oh! ACT Government Plastic Bag Ban review re...D'oh! <a href="www.environment.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/260752/12-26082_Plastic_bag_review_report.pdf" rel="nofollow">ACT Government Plastic Bag Ban review report</a>.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5203114740382325482013-04-24T23:41:59.461-04:002013-04-24T23:41:59.461-04:00I live in a state - South Australia - that not onl...I live in a state - South Australia - that not only pioneered container deposit legislation (initially 5c, currently 10c; we have the cleanest roadsides in the country - by a mile! - but the other states are still in the dark ages due to packaging and retail industry alarmism), but a couple of years back we also banned single-use plastic shopping bags!<br /><br />That was in '08, the '12 review results are available <a href="http://www.zerowaste.sa.gov.au/upload/resource-centre/publications/plastic-bag-phase-out/PBActReview_maspin_Nov2012_2%20-%20final.pdf" rel="nofollow">here</a>.<br /><br />Now the state government tended to only look at the - considerable and positive - impact on the waste stream, but the ACT government bought a similar ban in in 2011, and <a href="www.environment.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/260752/12-26082_Plastic_bag_review_report.pdf" rel="nofollow">their review</a> in November 2012 tackled the other greenhouse and environmental factors, including citing a major study from the UK, and they concluded that the woven plastic reuseable bags adopted in Australia were indeed the least-impact technology.<br /><br />These box-construction bags with a plastic bottom 'stiffener' insert are bloody handy for transporting gear when car, or even bike, camping, I might add. Everyone uses them!<br /><br />PS - <a href="http://hot-topic.co.nz/monckton-and-the-big-waka/" rel="nofollow">Scrotum rides again</a>...billnoreply@blogger.com