tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post4332876097505006921..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Where HAS all the CO2 gone.......EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-20747406528193871072013-06-11T05:07:31.190-04:002013-06-11T05:07:31.190-04:00Oh dear, not the abiogenic oil crap again.
Even ...Oh dear, not the abiogenic oil crap again. <br /><br />Even if it was possible, fields which do appear to be filling up are doing so at a rate far lower than the extraction rate, thus, it won't be possible to keep pumping it forever. <br />Not to mention the lack of actual evidence for the theory in the first place. guthrienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-72322227044229674052013-06-10T21:11:47.810-04:002013-06-10T21:11:47.810-04:00"The very latest is that ocean floor subducts..."<i>The very latest is that ocean floor subducts into the mantle and the CO2 contained in it flips a molecule [sic] in the process and turns into methane.</i>"<br /><br />Hmmm... sounds like alchemy to me.<br /><br />"<i>That explains why oil abandoned wells are filling up again, from the bottom.</i>"<br /><br />Really? Evidence?<br /><br />"<i>Eco-fascists ain't gonna like that.</i>"<br /><br />Well, even assuming that it was true, letting the subterranean carbon genie out of the bottle to reconstruct an atmosphere from hundreds of millions of years ago isn't exactly a good idea. <br /><br /><br />Bernard J.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69258394332278426542013-06-10T19:35:52.394-04:002013-06-10T19:35:52.394-04:00The very latest is that ocean floor subducts into ...The very latest is that ocean floor subducts into the mantle and the CO2 contained in it flips a molecule in the process and turns into methane. Methane then comes to the surface as methane, natural gas or oil. In other words, "fossil" fuels are renewable and continuous. That explains why oil abandoned wells are filling up again, from the bottom.<br /><br />Eco-fascists ain't gonna like that.Oscarphonehttp://mezzanineview.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18302691356072703442006-12-12T20:48:00.000-05:002006-12-12T20:48:00.000-05:00Yes, but eli, you are forgetting-
A lot of the car...Yes, but eli, you are forgetting-<br />A lot of the carbon balance is based on the observation that Earth and venus have similar bulk compositions, and the CO2 in venuses atmosphere is about equal to the CO2 in carbonate rocks.<br /><br />But there's a catch.<br /><br />The bulk compositional equivalence is based on XRF basalt analyses from the venus landers- landers ownd and operated by the USSR. So in fact, the entire carbon budget for the inner solar system is a communist conspiracy. Do you hink it is a coincidence that CO2 is supposed to absorb infra-RED?C W Mageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706100504739548720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-10611918465413531042006-12-12T20:30:00.000-05:002006-12-12T20:30:00.000-05:00Hi John, how about telling us how much fossil fuel...Hi John, how about telling us how much fossil fuel was in the ground 600 million years ago, how much carbon was stored in soils, and oh yes, how well the biological pump in the ocean was moving CO2 into carbonate shells in at the surface to the deep ocean where they could be incorporated into the lithosphere.<br /><br />And now compare how much carbon is in all of those reservoirs today compared to the amount of carbon in the atmosphere 600 M years ago.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-29267932652975383482006-12-12T16:23:00.000-05:002006-12-12T16:23:00.000-05:00Unfortunately the reconstruction of past carbon di...Unfortunately the reconstruction of past carbon dioxide from the cartoon you provided does not show the variation over the last 600 million years (probably because of the scale used.<br /><br />Otherwise you'd find that the modern CO2 concentration is two or three magnitudes lower than it has been for most of the time since the Cambrian explosion.<br /><br />But why spoil the article with an explanation like that? People might think you were a skeptic, and that would never do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36703010315191635372006-12-11T05:15:00.000-05:002006-12-11T05:15:00.000-05:00Why do they use g instead of kg?..
OMFG I just re...Why do they use g instead of kg?..<br /><br />OMFG I just read the rest of the paper. What total fruitcakes! Is the best way to beat peer review to be so totally off the wall about everything that reviewers just throw up their hands in disgust? I mean, wow. Just, wow. The sad thing is that all the issues addressed here have actually been done-correctly (to the best of current knowledge, of course) by very clever, hard-working researchers whose papers will never get the type of attention that this one has.<br /><br />Why can't I get reviewers this pliant?C W Mageehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09706100504739548720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3639516615340154332006-12-10T17:15:00.000-05:002006-12-10T17:15:00.000-05:00"The apologies are due to Pete Seegar, not his Bob..."The apologies are due to Pete Seegar, not his Bobness"<br /><br />Sorry Pete. <br /><br />I musta been thinkin' of blowin in the wind, which <i>is</i> a Dylan tune.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34838684374093179842006-12-08T16:19:00.000-05:002006-12-08T16:19:00.000-05:00The apologies are due to Pete Seegar, not his Bobn...The apologies are due to Pete Seegar, not his Bobness... You get minus points for Peter, Paul & Mary.Garethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01344889228458095563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-78040945563393845422006-12-08T12:23:00.000-05:002006-12-08T12:23:00.000-05:00Where has all the Exxon-Mobil money gone?
For Mich...Where has all the Exxon-Mobil money gone?<br />For Michael-Mann-harassing.<br /><br />Where has all the Exxon-Mobil money gone?<br />We'll probably never know.<br /><br />Where has all the Exxon-Mobil money gone?<br />Gone to denialist think tanks everyone.<br /><br />When will we ever learn?<br />When will we ever learn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-14901877513751232172006-12-08T12:12:00.000-05:002006-12-08T12:12:00.000-05:00There are more (endless?) verses where that one ca...There are more (endless?) verses where that one came from:<br /><br />Where have all the denialists gone?<br />Talk about outgassing.<br /><br />Where have all the Inhofes gone?<br />Long time ago.<br /><br /><br />Where have all the Virgina State Climatologists gone?<br /><br />Gone to greener ($) pastures everyone.<br /><br />When will they ever learn?<br />When will they ever learn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-68396718632714176862006-12-08T10:55:00.000-05:002006-12-08T10:55:00.000-05:00(With apologies to Bob Dylan)
Where has all the c...(With apologies to Bob Dylan)<br /><br />Where has all the carbon dioxide gone?<br />Long time outgassing.<br /><br />Where has all the carbon dioxide gone?<br />Long time ago.<br /><br />Where has all the carbon dioxide gone?<br />To rocks and plants and everyone,<br /><br /><br />When will the denialists ever learn?<br />When will they ever learn?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-84616072246253135912006-12-08T10:42:00.000-05:002006-12-08T10:42:00.000-05:00Interesting link, Steve.
Building fences to keep...Interesting link, Steve.<br /><br /><br />Building fences to keep out the rabits (sp?) does seem to be one of RP's forte's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-54911305645963164452006-12-07T21:17:00.000-05:002006-12-07T21:17:00.000-05:00I think that oxygen producing cyanobacteria go bac...I think that oxygen producing cyanobacteria go back more than a couple of billion years, but for a long time any spare oxidizing capacity went into converting most of the crustal iron from ferrous to ferric. Once that dirty job was done - 2 gyr or so - the atmosphere could be made for safe for oxygen.<br /><br />Or maybe I really don't remember any geochemistry.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-50980379356435320272006-12-07T09:25:00.000-05:002006-12-07T09:25:00.000-05:00Thanks for the corrections.
Steve, Roger I is I...Thanks for the corrections. <br /><br />Steve, Roger I is I think much more subtle than Roger II.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48862984138473111542006-12-07T08:53:00.000-05:002006-12-07T08:53:00.000-05:00Good article. Two typos:
"They apparently don't r...Good article. Two typos:<br /><br />"They apparently don't realize the implications of their Figure 7 for example, which, btw has life arising much too at less than 1 billion years ago." - "too late"?<br /><br />Paragraph and tag around second figure seems broken - a spurious space between the "<" and "onblur"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52444891645355848012006-12-07T06:27:00.000-05:002006-12-07T06:27:00.000-05:00Life arising two billion years ago is also pretty ...Life arising two billion years ago is also pretty late. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life">3.5 to 3.9 gya</a> looks more credible. Of course an oxygen atmosphere wasn't built in a day.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48844578164904833442006-12-07T06:18:00.000-05:002006-12-07T06:18:00.000-05:00Very nice, thank you. The code for the first grap...Very nice, thank you. The code for the first graphic needs a fix, BTW.<br /><br />OT: Note the fifth author <a href="http://www.agu.org/cgi-bin/SFgate/SFgate?language=English&verbose=0&listenv=table&application=fm06&convert=&converthl=&refinequery=&formintern=&formextern=&transquery=pielke&_lines=&multiple=0&descriptor=%2fdata%2fepubs%2fwais%2findexes%2ffm06%2ffm06%7c685%7c4935%7cThe%20Impact%20of%20Land%20Use%20Change%20in%20Southwestern%20Australia:%20The%20Australian%20Bunny%20Fence%20Experiment%20%28BuFEx-05%29%7cHTML%7clocalhost:0%7c%2fdata%2fepubs%2fwais%2findexes%2ffm06%2ffm06%7c5046362%205051297%20%2fdata2%2fepubs%2fwais%2fdata%2ffm06%2ffm06.txt">here</a>. Coincidence? I think not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com