tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post4269243035960679746..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Heartland Hacked AgainEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-68434707047326897362012-05-08T13:46:07.284-04:002012-05-08T13:46:07.284-04:00It's sad (I was going to use the word 'iro...It's sad (I was going to use the word 'ironic', but... well, you know) that the majority of the denizens of WUWT consider that the dissembling undertaken by Heartland constitutes 'science'. Vis:<br /><br /><i>"Bad move by Heartland. Now it makes them look like they are playing climate games. Stick to the facts and science!"</i><br /><br />and:<br /><br /><i>"...I do hope Heartland, despite their frustrations, will get back to sound science."</i><br /><br />They're not even wrong...Steve Metzlernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-74307953852558227002012-05-06T20:50:45.024-04:002012-05-06T20:50:45.024-04:00JB
Soon was still there the last time I publishe...JB <br /><br />Soon was still there the last time I published with a HSCA coauthor (2006) but nobody there seems to have seen him in years.<br /><br />Eli<br /><br />I took a look per your suggestion. <br />Gold in the Own Goalpost Caber Toss goes to :<br /><br />"Myrrh says:<br />May 6, 2012 at 4:09 am<br /><br />Thanks for the info about Turmeric and Alzheimer’s and Black Pepper. As Parkinson’s is another neurodegenerative disease with a pathology associated with malformed amyloids it could well be helpful with this disease also"THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38195108320462867712012-05-06T16:42:47.168-04:002012-05-06T16:42:47.168-04:00Jbowers:
Willie Soon and mercury
See Fake scienci...Jbowers:<br />Willie Soon and mercury<br /><br />See <a rel="nofollow">Fake sciencie...</a><br /><br />1) DO a full search for mercury: 53 hits<br /><br />Heartland is really quite OK with it in fish and everywhere else *except* CFLs, where it is really, really bad.<br /><br />p.89: WIllie Soon has written some, quoted often for E&CN.<br /><br />p.148<br />Z.2006.02-17 Fish Is Good For You<br />which you can read in its entirety at <a href="http://heartland.org/sites/default/files/sites/all/modules/custom/heartland_migration/files/pdfs/18453.pdf" rel="nofollow">E&CN</a>, p.17.<br /><br />jkrideau: thanks.<br />I was sad to see Roosters drop out of the budget.John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-33325564385638531942012-05-06T15:29:48.169-04:002012-05-06T15:29:48.169-04:00"... a heavily marked-up copy of Gore’s book,..."... a heavily marked-up copy of Gore’s book, Earth in the Balance ..."<br /><br />Had the mathematically astute Kaczynski but noticed the infinite rate of extinction in the graph on page 227, he would have instantly died ROTFL, sparing us four more years of letter bombs.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-42674081300258974362012-05-06T14:46:22.757-04:002012-05-06T14:46:22.757-04:00@ John Mashey
Oh I've read the budget. I'...@ John Mashey<br /><br />Oh I've read the budget. I've even read <i>Fake science, fakexperts, funny finances, free of tax</i> though, admittedly, I just skimmed Appendix Z. Lovely piece of work btw.<br /><br />I'm just trying to imagine what a <b> Roosters of the Apocalypse</b> would look like. It's difficult to think of any more stupid than the billboards but I live in hope. <br /><br />jrkrideauAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58331535239554605732012-05-06T09:48:47.846-04:002012-05-06T09:48:47.846-04:00Mitch - I think they deleted it in the last day or...Mitch - I think they deleted it in the last day or two. If so, they really should've left a note.<br /><br />It was very similar to a post at HI about James Lee, a wannabe terrorist who didn't get anyone killed but himself. I was going to write a post about how I thought both were legitimate, except for stupid errors in the HI post, but I'm not sure I will now with nothing to link to.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-29976046405946075802012-05-06T01:49:53.842-04:002012-05-06T01:49:53.842-04:00Mitch, it wasn't Romm who wrote that piece, bu...Mitch, it wasn't Romm who wrote that piece, but Brad Johnson.<br /><br />The direct link (look for "Norway Terrorist Is A Global Warming Denier") doesn't work for me, but it's on various other websites.<br /><br />MarcoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76286702950505252262012-05-05T23:09:38.230-04:002012-05-05T23:09:38.230-04:00Can someone post a link to the Romm post that'...Can someone post a link to the Romm post that's being discussed? A search on Romm's site didn't reveal anything.Mitchhttp://mitchgolden.com/essays/presentation1.0.pdfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-67299025899531816342012-05-05T19:29:34.108-04:002012-05-05T19:29:34.108-04:00a_ray,
I cannot condemn that which I have not hea...a_ray,<br /><br />I cannot condemn that which I have not heard, saw, or otherwise witnessed. I provided the same level of condemnation that you did, but that is not enough for you, tough, keep yourself woun-up and you will eventually act like a Cleveland OWS'er.<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-49561369883388043992012-05-05T18:49:35.813-04:002012-05-05T18:49:35.813-04:00Russell,
I know that. I just don't recall it....Russell,<br /><br />I know that. I just don't recall it.<br /><br />Perhaps I was away from Harvard at the time. When was it?willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-61326057910443216092012-05-05T18:37:40.196-04:002012-05-05T18:37:40.196-04:00But Russell, didn't Soon publish his research ...But Russell, didn't Soon publish his research into mercury last year?J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86610087126379527702012-05-05T17:46:20.986-04:002012-05-05T17:46:20.986-04:00Soon was at the Harvard-Smithsonian Astrophysical ...Soon was at the Harvard-Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, till they noticed he hadn't published anything respectably astrophysical in years.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-45059409589252379642012-05-05T16:30:40.166-04:002012-05-05T16:30:40.166-04:00> Unacceptable. And I found this post on Rabett...> Unacceptable. And I found this post on Rabett Run [...]<br /><br />Collecting these tu quoques might be a full-time job.<br /><br />Besides, what Russell said. UB got a 99, if my memory serves me right. <br /><br />But I don't recall Bast going to Harvard. Nor Willie Soon, for that matter.willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-87028444042752690092012-05-05T15:57:07.875-04:002012-05-05T15:57:07.875-04:00According to J. Bowers' quote above, the Unabo...According to J. Bowers' quote above, the Unabomber is a fan of uncertainty. Gosh, who else pushes uncertainty?Holly Stickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01137842937086115228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77597657239271395022012-05-05T14:19:13.479-04:002012-05-05T14:19:13.479-04:00The late philosopher W. V. Quine took a lot of ri...The late philosopher W. V. Quine took a lot of ribbing when it surfaced that the Heartland Institute's new poster child had aced his sophomore course in Modal Logic .<br /><br />Van remained philosophical., pointing out that obsessed with mathematical logic, the Unabomber failed to take his senior course in Moral Philosophy.<br /><br />Neither it seems did Bast.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-87201546958977273402012-05-05T13:53:39.141-04:002012-05-05T13:53:39.141-04:00CE, How about their guilt-by-association slander o...CE, How about their guilt-by-association slander of Al Gore? <br /><br />How about their annual "conference," where this type of stuff is red meat? <br /><br />How about the slanders of scientists around the world as corrupt frauds?<br /><br />Just can't quite bring yourself to do that, can you...because then your side would have bupkes.<br /><br />I'd be perfectly happy to condemn all the over-the-top rhetoric and rely on evidence, but then my side of the argument has evidence, while yours has only arguments based on fallacies. <br /><br />Here, CE, why not collect them all:<br /><br />http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6677050019436297422012-05-05T12:53:13.864-04:002012-05-05T12:53:13.864-04:00a_ray,
I don't read HI. I condemn their guilt...a_ray,<br /><br />I don't read HI. I condemn their guilt-by-association pandering wrt the billboard.<br /><br /><br />Is that enough for you?<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-87125376242191013802012-05-05T12:40:42.887-04:002012-05-05T12:40:42.887-04:00Roosters:
check the budget item and google rooster...Roosters:<br />check the budget item and google roosters of the apocalypse.John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-72480090074838817582012-05-05T12:28:12.990-04:002012-05-05T12:28:12.990-04:00@ John Mashey
I really would have liked to know w...@ John Mashey<br /><br />I really would have liked to know what those roosters were going to do.<br /><br />Maybe it's something like a Terry Pratchet book?<br /><br />jrkrideauAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-74744052053955710072012-05-05T11:14:15.143-04:002012-05-05T11:14:15.143-04:00I guess they preferred to spend their money on thi...I guess they preferred to spend their money on this, rather than the canceled "Roosters of the Apocalypse" item mentioned in the 2012 Budget.John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-31273942737614971002012-05-05T08:31:50.335-04:002012-05-05T08:31:50.335-04:00Celery Eater, Maybe someday you will understand th...Celery Eater, Maybe someday you will understand that "Tu quoque" is a logical fallacy.<br /><br />Heartland is an utterly contemptible organization, and yet you cannot bring yourself to condemn them. I don't read Romm. I condemn his guilt-by-association pandering wrt Brevik.<br /><br />How 'bout you, Punkin? Can you bring yourself to unequivocally condemn Heartland as the anti-intellectual thugs they are?a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22661209243154945212012-05-05T05:24:07.211-04:002012-05-05T05:24:07.211-04:00Whether this was always to be the 24-hour experime...Whether this was always to be the 24-hour experiment Bast says it was can easily be verified by allowing acceptable third-party sight of Heartland documentation covering, say, the 3 months' or so's internal communications leading up to the advertising campaign's debut.<br /><br />Come on Bast. Publish the documentary proof. You've nothing to lose and everything to gain.<br /><br />Of course, whether it was an experiment (of whatever length) or not is largely immaterial for rather obvious reasons of taste, among other things.<br /><br /><i>Cymraeg llygoden</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83850450246551108162012-05-05T05:10:38.545-04:002012-05-05T05:10:38.545-04:00@ WheelsOC
Thanks. Kaczynski says...
"118.....@ WheelsOC<br /><br />Thanks. Kaczynski says...<br /><br />"118... and the greenhouse effect affects the whole world."<br /><br />"169...No one knows what will happen as a result of ozone depletion, the greenhouse effect and other environmental problems that cannot yet be foreseen."<br /><br />So he agrees with Roy Spencer and the George Marshall Institute. There's nothing there that many sceptics don't say, and a number of sceptics are actually environmentalists. Believe it or not, Believe it or not, Rupert Murdoch will argue all night at parties defending the environment (took me by surprise, but environmentalist-detester Jeremy Clarkson, who Murdoch was arguing with, told the story on Have I Got News For You last night).J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69596540398043168162012-05-05T03:06:33.774-04:002012-05-05T03:06:33.774-04:00It's not just that HI set up that billboard, t...It's not just that HI set up that billboard, they were kind enough to post an explanation on their site in case you don't understand the billboard. To quote:<br /><br /><i>The people who still believe in man-made global warming are mostly on the radical fringe of society. This is why the most prominent advocates of global warming aren’t scientists. They are murderers, tyrants, and madmen.</i><br /><br />They have yet to distance themselves from these writings.bluegruenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-60727180450445832342012-05-05T03:04:21.871-04:002012-05-05T03:04:21.871-04:00@ J Bowers: Where does the Unabomber mention globa...@ J Bowers: <i>Where does the Unabomber mention global warming in his manifesto??????</i><br /><br />Search for "greenhouse." <br /><br />-WheelsOCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com