tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post4102509132658804910..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: So What Does Publishing a Scientific Paper Cost?EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-88081432912669143312016-06-01T03:16:54.386-04:002016-06-01T03:16:54.386-04:00No, the archival function isn't lost, you can ...No, the archival function isn't lost, you can still get paper copies of the journal just like any other. There is also nothing to stop authors from archiving their papers elsewhere and they also seem to get "cached" by places like citeseer and ACM digital library. The commercial journals generally don't pay the editors or reviewers either, so there is little difference in the volunteer labour costs either, the main difference is the work of the production editor (but note that JMLR does little copy-editing). I should also point out that JMLR is one of the top journals in the field.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536983922816649742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-65955612287943593222016-05-31T15:57:57.815-04:002016-05-31T15:57:57.815-04:00Basically you lose the archival function of a libr...Basically you lose the archival function of a library and if you cost out the volunteer labor . . .<br />GmEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-87014482739726537252016-05-31T11:29:23.094-04:002016-05-31T11:29:23.094-04:00Donations, plus some funds from MIT IIRC. Some mo...Donations, plus some funds from MIT IIRC. Some more info here (will have to go and read it now) https://blogs.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2012/03/06/an-efficient-journal/<br /><br />Apparently the largest cost was the fees of the tax accountant.<br /><br />"Adding it all up, a reasonable imputed estimate for JMLR’s total direct costs other than the volunteered labor (that is, tax accountant, web hosting, domain names, clerical work, etc.) is less than $10,000, covering the almost 1,000 articles the journal has published since its founding — about $10 per article."<br /><br />The paper version is done as a print on demand operation, and web hosting is not that expensive. The real costs of publishing the journal lie in the time and effort of the volunteer editors and peer-reviewers (much like a commercial journal? ;o)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536983922816649742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-21832589217399004752016-05-31T11:21:04.974-04:002016-05-31T11:21:04.974-04:00Gavin, who pays? Electrons have a cost and a life...Gavin, who pays? Electrons have a cost and a lifetimeEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57707506623036990642016-05-31T11:02:45.767-04:002016-05-31T11:02:45.767-04:00Another publishing model worth looking at is that ...Another publishing model worth looking at is that used by JMLR (www.jmlr.org) which is free for both author and reader, but has full peer-reviewing and a production editor. It isn't immediately clear to me why there is any other model (at least in subject areas where the authors can be expected to be able to used LaTeX competently).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16536983922816649742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-71144711171018587252016-05-31T05:10:16.285-04:002016-05-31T05:10:16.285-04:00I hadn't appreciated that the ArXiV running co...I hadn't appreciated that the ArXiV running costs were quite that high. On the other hand, I've just checked and it looks like they're handling about 100000 papers per years, so less than $10 per paper. Given the position it is in now, you would think that it would be a resource that would be supported if it's current funding stream were to dry up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com