tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post3279672056995224855..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Add lead-bullet poisoning denialism to the crank magnetism listEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-31399030717968354542013-03-08T18:38:53.823-05:002013-03-08T18:38:53.823-05:00Since the tremorous geology of their state spouts ...Since the tremorous geology of their state spouts mercury at a greater rate than human endeavor, perhaps Californian cranks should amalgamate into a Neo-Neolithic party aimed at returning Gaia to an age untroubled by toxic metals like bronze and iron.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15096727986964112032013-03-08T15:11:31.345-05:002013-03-08T15:11:31.345-05:00FWIW, I'm looking for enviro/hunter alliances ...FWIW, I'm looking for enviro/hunter alliances whenever possible. I'll have a policy role on an endangered species habitat plan protecting about 500,000 acres in our county, and I think pig hunting and possibly turkey hunting could help preserve habitat for native species.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57892593499779420002013-03-08T10:36:04.295-05:002013-03-08T10:36:04.295-05:00"Almost all bullets today are jacketed with c..."Almost all bullets today are jacketed with copper or similar." (Eli) - true, but never entirely covered (or the bullet will bust its mantle in the barrel) and the jacket often gets damaged or separated on impact particularly rifle munitions.<br />But lead shot is much worse indeed.<br /><br />/cRR<br /><br /><br />cRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-62455013547343935912013-03-07T18:21:30.038-05:002013-03-07T18:21:30.038-05:00The Hague Convention requirement for jacketed bull...The Hague Convention requirement for jacketed bullets was put in place because they don't mushroom and therefore are more survivable, tending to create cleaner wounds. The cynical would point out that causing a higher percentage of sufficiently wounded soldiers causes more supply train headaches than efficiently killing them. Unless you're Stalin ...<br /><br />Of course, modern small caliber rounds for the M-16 etc are carefully designed to tumble when they hit flesh, causing damage not all that different than the lead bullets the Hague Convention banned.<br /><br />Eli - I don't hunt either, but was actively involved on the board of a large conservation NGO in Oregon when the steel-shot ban was being argued.<br /><br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-7883218941816539822013-03-07T18:02:33.621-05:002013-03-07T18:02:33.621-05:00The Hague Convention should be amended to ban the ...The Hague Convention should be amended to ban the use of ballistic electrons against civilian population , and limit Puckel gun manufacture to rhombic barrels to discourage wars of religion.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23728147959880079972013-03-07T16:25:58.543-05:002013-03-07T16:25:58.543-05:00"The Hague convention requires military bulle..."The Hague convention requires military bullets to be the same,"<br /><br />Nope, if the military personnel aimed at is even minimally protected by an armour or something that could be considered to be an armour, anything goes, this even by the Convention itself.<br /><br />-an anonymous Finn<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-50542332114922832212013-03-07T15:53:58.532-05:002013-03-07T15:53:58.532-05:00As a bonus, bismuth is both a topological insulato...As a bonus, bismuth is both a topological insulator and a cure for diarrheaEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55627472231002227422013-03-07T14:10:29.366-05:002013-03-07T14:10:29.366-05:00Steel shot can catatophically erode a gun's po...Steel shot can catatophically erode a gun's polished choke- shotguns are low angle optical devices, rather like x-ray telescopes, that actually focus the shot pattern.<br /><br />Tungsten though denser than lead is even more abrasive than steel, but an excellent , if expensive, non toxic compromise between density and softness exists in bismuth.<br /><br />THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11804350266601717242013-03-07T14:10:13.832-05:002013-03-07T14:10:13.832-05:00For religious and tribal reasons Eli does not hunt...For religious and tribal reasons Eli does not hunt, therefore he is not completely up to date on such matters, however the "controversy" appears to be a Dick Cheney thing such as it is.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48640931370501303242013-03-07T11:54:00.308-05:002013-03-07T11:54:00.308-05:00CA already has laws about this.
http://www.dfg.ca....CA already has laws about this.<br />http://www.dfg.ca.gov/wildlife/hunting/condor/<br /><br />And many outdoor ranges in the San Jose area (all I know about personally) do not allow lead shot.<br /><br />Why is there controversy about this?Gatornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77597463409130195802013-03-07T11:41:13.974-05:002013-03-07T11:41:13.974-05:00Eli is showing his age ... :)
The arguments again...Eli is showing his age ... :)<br /><br />The arguments against steel shot had some merit, i.e. spread pattern, lighter shot, worse kill-to-wound ratio, greater wear on shotgun barrels, etc.<br /><br />But then came tungsten shot ...<br /><br />http://www.tungsten-spheres.com/tungsten_shot.html<br /><br />Oregon bans lead shot and has for a long time. I don't have a state-by-state tally but it's a pretty common position, at least.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-59967728284242434862013-03-07T11:07:54.231-05:002013-03-07T11:07:54.231-05:00Almost all bullets to day are jacketed with copper...Almost all bullets to day are jacketed with copper or similar. The Hague convention requires military bullets to be the same, and increasingly bullets used at shoot ranges are completely covered. <br /><br />The major issue wrt hunting is shot. used for hunting mostly birds. Steel gives a tighter pattern than lead. There are issues with killing efficiency for hunters, and some older shotguns have problems with steel shot.<br /><br />Some states (most?) now ban lead. The position of hunters is interesting. Most want there to be enough game to hunt, so they accept the steel shot regulations. Remember that the East Coast Flyway was restored by <a href="http://www.fws.gov/duckstamps/Info/Stamps/stampinfo.htm" rel="nofollow">duck stamps</a> (e.g. stamps hunters bought to allow them to hunt ducks) a program that the hunters eagerly supported. EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-74876884777253317932013-03-07T10:11:37.523-05:002013-03-07T10:11:37.523-05:00Speaking about crank magnetism.
In Scientific Ame...Speaking about crank magnetism.<br /><br />In Scientific American:<br /><br /><i><br /><a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=teach-the-controversy-comes-to-climate-science" rel="nofollow">Teach the Controversy Comes to Climate Science.</a> <br /><br /><br />The debate on whether evolution should be taught in America's classrooms is as old as the 1925 Scopes Monkey Trial. Recently, a similar effort has come under fire by education leaders and legislators: how to teach global warming.<br /><br />A flurry of bills that critics say would allow climate change denial to be taught in public schools have been moving through state legislatures throughout the United States, with some success.<br /><br />The legislation is promoted and often directly supported by the Discovery Institute, a Seattle-based nonprofit that promotes "intelligent design research" as part of its "Academic Freedom" campaign. The organization aims to prod educators to "teach the controversy" on a number of contentious issues, including climate change.<br />...<br /></i>Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15920086210777299032013-03-07T10:01:52.040-05:002013-03-07T10:01:52.040-05:00Should armies use lead-free bullets?
About how the...<a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19116438" rel="nofollow">Should armies use lead-free bullets?</a><br />About how the Swedish and Norwegian armies are switching to led-free bullets.Lars Karlssonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06158469980966810882noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91271008997119623502013-03-07T09:36:52.753-05:002013-03-07T09:36:52.753-05:00Actually, I have a friend who has undertaken to mi...Actually, I have a friend who has undertaken to mitigate lead contamination at a shooting range. In alkaline soils, the lead is much more likely to stay in place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3178037004327342262013-03-07T06:28:09.862-05:002013-03-07T06:28:09.862-05:00Well I remember seeing small groups of dull-coated...Well I remember seeing small groups of dull-coated ruffle-feathered lead-poisoned black swans wobble overhead, their heads drooping listlessly below the level of their bodies on the end of their long necks...<br /><br />This was Bool Lagoon, here in South Australia, around the time of the outright ban. Our hunting lobby, you may be astonished to learn, <a href="http://www.fga.net.au/non-toxic-shot/w3/i1001286/" rel="nofollow">supports the ban and educates hunters about it</a>.<br /><br />Scientists had determined the masses of lead pellets on the bottom of the lagoon were having a catastrophic impact on waterbird populations, particularly, as with the swans, where they ended up in the birds' crops. <br /><br />And now it turns out that all along the silly-old swans had been eating old batteries and the paint from shelter sheds! Either that or the buffoons from the NRA have been smoking stuff at cocktail parties...billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83712216561772635642013-03-07T03:56:30.168-05:002013-03-07T03:56:30.168-05:00Ah, an industry lobbyist spreading doubt to postpo...Ah, an industry lobbyist spreading doubt to postpone regulations. Tobacco style denial all over again. <br /><br />Will the public and regulators detect this strategy earlier this time?<br /><br />--cynicusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com