tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post3263813304524927959..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: POPA throws a curveballEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91793637411365359562015-04-08T08:48:31.384-04:002015-04-08T08:48:31.384-04:00FYI the draft statement is available for comment b...FYI the draft statement is available for comment by members of the APS:<br /><br /><i>APS formally reviews its statements every five years. As part of that process, the APS Panel on Public Affairs (POPA) reviewed the 2007 Climate Change Statement and 2010 associated commentary. The results of that review led POPA to revise the statement. Before the statement is formally adopted by the Society, members are asked to comment on the draft. POPA will review all comments and the draft statement may be modified accordingly. Comments will be accepted through May 6, 2015.<br /><br /><b>Draft APS Statement on Earth's Changing Climate</b><br /><br />On Climate Change:<br />Earth's changing climate is a critical issue that poses the risk of significant disruption around the globe. While natural sources of climate variability are significant, multiple lines of evidence indicate that human influences have had an increasingly dominant effect on the climate warming observed since the mid-twentieth century. Although the magnitudes of future effects are uncertain, human influences on the climate are growing. The potential consequences of climate change are great and the policies of the next few decades will determine human influences on the climate for centuries.<br /><br />On Climate Science:<br />As summarized in the 2013 report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), there continues to be significant progress in climate science. In particular, the connection between rising concentrations of atmospheric greenhouse gases and the increased warming of the global climate system is more certain than ever. Nevertheless, as recognized by Working Group 1 of the IPCC, scientific challenges remain to our abilities to observe, interpret, and project climate changes. To better inform societal choices, the APS urges sustained research in climate science.<br /><br />On Climate Action:<br />The APS reiterates its 2007 call to support actions that will reduce the emissions, and ultimately the concentration, of greenhouse gases, as well as increase the resilience of society to a changing climate. Because physics and its techniques are fundamental elements of climate science, the APS further urges physicists to collaborate with colleagues across disciplines in climate research and to contribute to the public dialogue.<br /><br /><b>Comment</b><br /><br />APS members may submit one comment before May 6, 2015. All submissions are final.</i>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01981748405993921704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-8612874953353455952015-02-03T15:08:01.501-05:002015-02-03T15:08:01.501-05:00off topic, but for those few old enough to remembe...off topic, but for those few old enough to remember:<br /><br />https://directory.eoportal.org/web/eoportal/satellite-missions/d/dscovr <br /><br /><br />http://www.nasa.gov/press/2015/january/nasa-tv-coverage-set-for-noaa-dscovr-launch-feb-8/<br /><br />https://www.google.com/search?q=DSCOVR+satellite+instrumentation<br />Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-8088663719830212102015-02-03T14:23:00.061-05:002015-02-03T14:23:00.061-05:00I know how you feel, I've never been too kind ...I know how you feel, I've never been too kind to any establishment. Did I tell you I was kicked out of school in Cuba for being unruly? I questioned the length of a speech being given to the student body by the President of the Communist Party youth. <br /><br />I love to side with minorities. do you remember when Francis wrote it was the end of history? History never ends. That 3 % sure seems to be growing. And we keep running out of fossil fuels. I'm sitting here watching the evolving race. Fernando Leanmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16085680730729620836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-70360321042363107932015-02-01T04:55:54.854-05:002015-02-01T04:55:54.854-05:00Given that Koonin and Happer are the witch hunters...Given that Koonin and Happer are the witch hunters, no, Eli does not think they are much intimidated by themselvesEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52991760265382407312015-02-01T04:21:50.816-05:002015-02-01T04:21:50.816-05:00Old guys aren't as intimidated by political wi...Old guys aren't as intimidated by political witch hunts carried out by the powers that be. They may also have a tendency to be Republicans.Fernando Leanmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16085680730729620836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-37213852121068107472015-01-31T18:45:16.326-05:002015-01-31T18:45:16.326-05:00Magma:
It's complicated, but there is vocifero...Magma:<br />It's complicated, but there is vociferous subset of physcists, mostly old guys, who reject AGW.<br />For some earlier history, see <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/another-silly-climate-petition-exposed" rel="nofollow">Another Silly Climate Petition Exposed(2009)</a><br />Will Happer & co were pretty unhappy about that :-)JohnMasheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08174651130367553996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5604027227060601312015-01-31T17:40:44.566-05:002015-01-31T17:40:44.566-05:00Magma, they don't like their own 2007 stateme...Magma, they don't like their own 2007 statement. Maybe they'll end up with something like "Climate change is really happening, but we can't agree on what else we should say about it". <br /><br />I think they should also issue a statement about the probability that we can get a cheap battery before everything goes to hell. Something like "a practical and economic massive energy storage technology will be developed within the next 50 years (high probability, medium confidence, 97 % of our members feel this way)". Fernando Leanmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16085680730729620836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-2283363198970632442015-01-31T14:33:44.185-05:002015-01-31T14:33:44.185-05:00I can understand why the American Association of P...I can understand why the American Association of Petroleum Geologists has a climate change position statement that's about as enthusiastic as the prospect of undergoing wisdom teeth extraction in the midst of a global anaesthic shortage.<br /><br />What excuse does the APS have to offer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40495777275041240222015-01-31T12:47:39.327-05:002015-01-31T12:47:39.327-05:00The drafters have too much baggage and too many co...The drafters have too much baggage and too many commitments to draft anything new. The best they can do is "hash", and it does not really matter if it is the remains of Tuesdays corned beef or Wednesdays roast beef.<br /><br />Making sausage requires fresh meat.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150805906414546377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11572521957716071632015-01-31T03:11:29.617-05:002015-01-31T03:11:29.617-05:00There has to be a good physicist joke in there som...There has to be a good physicist joke in there somewhere.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3546984721332307332015-01-30T23:10:26.870-05:002015-01-30T23:10:26.870-05:00As an APS member I am disposed to suggest a motio...As an APS member I am disposed to suggest a motion mandating that any statements issued by POPA be authored solely by the panel without reference to or paraphrase of the language of staements written by or for parties and publicists external to the APS. THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-62075697460331339042015-01-30T17:24:49.973-05:002015-01-30T17:24:49.973-05:00The 2007 APS statement reminds me of the Kyoto Pro...The 2007 APS statement reminds me of the Kyoto Protocol. Maybe the 2015 statement will say they can't agree on what they are supposed to say? Fernando Leanmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16085680730729620836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9935858515057752242015-01-30T14:11:55.250-05:002015-01-30T14:11:55.250-05:00Oh, wait, he already did and the APS published it:...Oh, wait, he already did and the APS published it: http://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/papers/PhysTodayRT2011.pdfWhy Hockey Sticks are Truehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060543508611206166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-13287658328069247012015-01-30T14:00:45.153-05:002015-01-30T14:00:45.153-05:00Why not let RayPierre write the damn statement, pu...Why not let RayPierre write the damn statement, publish it and be done with it? So simple.Why Hockey Sticks are Truehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060543508611206166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91916290753359172202015-01-30T12:07:45.743-05:002015-01-30T12:07:45.743-05:00Should we be surprised that it's difficult for...Should we be surprised that it's difficult for a society like APS to reach agreement on what to say about Climate Change?<br /><br />I do not think that such societies are good in that, and I do think that should first consider carefully, whether they even start preparing such statements, when the issue is not closely aligned with the purpose of the society.<br />Pekka Pirilähttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04747229036782463233noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18160003309988801992015-01-30T11:15:22.740-05:002015-01-30T11:15:22.740-05:00Who knew organizational meeting minutes could be s...Who knew organizational meeting minutes could be so fascinating???<br /><br />I think the sausage-factory analogy is terrible. The complaints about APS statements have been their being put together by a handful of people in a back-room without general input, and the fact that we seem to have 4 or 5 different "statements" none of which have been seen by any of the membership or other expert community is really absurd. What was the original subcommittee's proposal? What was the E&E subcommittee's proposal? What on earth is the "Tri-Statement"? And that was put forth over 6 months ago and we still know absolutely nothing about what's going on. Ridiculous!Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06249922708053689717noreply@blogger.com