tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post2783335944121400740..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: McLean, de Freitas and Carter throw Soon and Baliunas under the busEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-25099804231823502522010-04-06T20:29:33.789-04:002010-04-06T20:29:33.789-04:00Chris, basically it depends. You mostly see it wh...Chris, basically it depends. You mostly see it when the journal wants stuff in publishable form for the submission. <br /><br />IEHO, this is just a by product of the publishers throwing the copy editors our of work and the arrogance of physicists. TEX is a disease. IEHO of courseEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57702193443885954042010-04-06T20:07:00.398-04:002010-04-06T20:07:00.398-04:00Thanks for that RP_sqrd; that's useful to know...Thanks for that RP_sqrd; that's useful to know.<br /><br />Of the journals that we publish in, only those that publish short communications (ACS Journals like J. Am. Chem. Soc.; J. Phys. Chem. etc. ... or Biophys J.) require you to prepare your comunication in a publication-quality "style". <br /><br />However I certainly wouldn't post such a version on the web <i>in advance of acceptance</i>.<br /><br />It's not really a big deal, but we'd consider that to be rather presumptious! Once the paper's accepted then no problem...chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368677638818373162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-31140461476359335332010-04-06T19:44:49.922-04:002010-04-06T19:44:49.922-04:00Chris, creating a preprint in the format of the jo...Chris, creating a preprint in the format of the journal to which the paper is being submitted has long been bog-standard practice for authors submitting to AIP (American Institute of Physics) journals. I've been doing it since 1998. For one thing, it lets you know right away how long your paper is (an important issue for journals that enforce strict length requirements). For another, it's just nice to have an idea of what the paper will look like in its final form. It's not something that requires careful design - all you do is include the appropriate style files when you run your manuscript file through LaTeX.Robert P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16608096675543218433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1322544257693889392010-04-06T18:08:44.987-04:002010-04-06T18:08:44.987-04:00thow --> throw ?
McLean, de Freitas and Carter...thow --> throw ?<br /><br />McLean, de Freitas and Carter thow Soon and Baliunas under the bus<br /><br />_ArthurAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-14083440747020403652010-04-06T17:05:41.769-04:002010-04-06T17:05:41.769-04:00Incidentally, if Annan et al did mock up a "p...Incidentally, if Annan et al did mock up a "preprint" of their McLean rebuttal ahead of acceptance, then I think that's pretty naff practice. <br /><br />Can we confirm that? It's not a hanging offense obviously, but I'd be mortified to do such a thing, and I can't imagine any of my colleagues doing so. Fair enough posting a copy of the manuscript (after all <i>that's</i> all yer own work). But to presume to prejudge acceptance, and then to "mock up" a preprint, tends towards the embarrasing.<br /><br />Can someone clarify this?chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368677638818373162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24491513243886488842010-04-06T16:37:17.894-04:002010-04-06T16:37:17.894-04:00Trebino's story seems credible except for #53....Trebino's story seems credible except for #53. If the offer were to appear, I doubt no sane researcher would not find it irresistible.willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-32301210277843442692010-04-06T16:34:42.564-04:002010-04-06T16:34:42.564-04:00Those who call others "Idiots" should no...Those who call others "Idiots" should not have a spelling error in the title of the article.<br /><br />Just saying...<br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15362440472314671852010-04-06T14:54:30.875-04:002010-04-06T14:54:30.875-04:00That's interesting Ian. She's not an autho...That's interesting Ian. She's not an author on the version that Eli links to in his top article.<br /><br />However, whatever version of the faked "PNAS" OISM article, this is quite different to the Soon and Baliunas article on patchwork analysis of MWP "warming" that caused such a kerfuffle when eased into Climate Research by de Freitas.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368677638818373162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36776558579198371562010-04-06T14:45:46.278-04:002010-04-06T14:45:46.278-04:00Here's to ya, Eli
On the other side of blogs,...Here's to ya, Eli<br /><br />On the other side of blogs, the Rabett's waiting<br />With furry eyes and truth no one can steal<br />He clicks on through the net anticipating<br />'Cause it makes him feel the way he used to feel<br /><br />From <a href="http://halgeranon.blogspot.com/2010/04/denyin-lies.html" rel="nofollow">Denyin' Lies</a><br />(with apologies to the Eagles)Horatio Algeranonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12988805467080448954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77677201228877808682010-04-06T14:32:45.530-04:002010-04-06T14:32:45.530-04:00Eli has it exactly right. Baliunas was listed as a...Eli has it exactly right. Baliunas was listed as an author on the original paper submitted with the OIM petition.<br /><br />It can be found here:<br /><br />http://web.archive.org/web/20070321030056/www.oism.org/pproject/review.pdf<br /><br />I think that that version "disappeared" from the OIM website but it is definitely the original version that was set up to look as if it was a paper in PNAS.Ian Forresterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04034328294553186459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38288465294085976592010-04-06T13:28:22.063-04:002010-04-06T13:28:22.063-04:00Eli, are you mixing up a couple of papers?
Baliun...Eli, are you mixing up a couple of papers?<br /><br />Baliunas wasn't an author on the Oregan Institute of Science fabrication of a PNAS article.<br /><br />Soon and Baliunas published in Climate Research (eased through by de Freitas and editorial board resignation-inducing) was a seperate paper altogether, and not, as far as we know, misleadingly formatted ahead of time.....chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00368677638818373162noreply@blogger.com