tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post2375669041931462352..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Down the DrainEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger33125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17769424861258623662014-07-21T10:52:16.399-04:002014-07-21T10:52:16.399-04:00Right, but the problem remains that you still have...Right, but the problem remains that you still have 7 to 9 or ten billion humans shitting in their drinking water. This is the 21st century, in case you haven't noticed. Water based sanitation is so 19th century, and much of the world doesn't even have it yet. And that's just one of a whole list of problems you have failed to deal with. Do I have to give you the list again, or can you figure it out for yourself?<br /><br />The lifetime remaining of your so called civilization is now measured in years, you need to start working on these problems.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43273668052471688552014-07-21T10:37:09.980-04:002014-07-21T10:37:09.980-04:00TLE:
"Don't they teach you guys anything...TLE:<br /><br />"Don't they teach you guys anything in grade school anymore?"<br /><br />Eli was clearly saying use grey water to flush your toilet.dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-13350999152802038862014-07-21T05:01:38.526-04:002014-07-21T05:01:38.526-04:00Another Schmidt on a bike:
http://weetweetie.tumb...Another Schmidt on a bike:<br /><br />http://weetweetie.tumblr.com/post/91046245949/gavin-schmidt-in-new-york-riding-a-bike-from<br /><br />Martin Vermeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537045395760606324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11925078373613302592014-07-20T22:04:18.563-04:002014-07-20T22:04:18.563-04:00That's black water, not grey water. And no, th...That's black water, not grey water. And no, there are very few good uses for it. It needs to be vaporized or atomized and then separated into its constituents.<br /><br />Grey water is what goes down your sink drain or out of your washing machine, and even that's a problem.<br /><br />Don't they teach you guys anything in grade school anymore?Thomas Lee Elifritznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-47267092158342543092014-07-20T17:14:35.473-04:002014-07-20T17:14:35.473-04:00Well actually a good idea is to shit in your drink...Well actually a good idea is to shit in your drinking water after you drink from it. For many uses grey water is fine.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-51048044479908939352014-07-19T12:27:33.619-04:002014-07-19T12:27:33.619-04:00A far better solution would be not to shit in your...A far better solution would be not to shit in your drinking water. But I guess you missed that.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-16973988565973189692014-07-19T11:18:50.325-04:002014-07-19T11:18:50.325-04:00It's ridiculous that many water systems don...It's ridiculous that many water systems don't know their leakage rate. They know how much water is leaving their plants, and they know how much water they're charging their customers. Even I can do that math.<br /><br />Here in California the leakage rate isn't that bad - our biggest customer has 7% leakage. I don't know the figure for us but I expect it to be extremely low - we have a relatively small amount of big pipes that are carefully monitored, not a fractal distribution network.<br /><br />As for RO, I drank some yesterday from treated wastewater at the grand opening of our new plant in San Jose. It tasted fine. There's a big distinction between treating wastewater/briny groundwater versus treating ocean water (possibly on taste as well?). The former is a far better solution than the latter, especially on climate mitigation grounds.<br /><br />Not wasting water to begin with is even better, tho.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23573571818720993482014-07-18T17:28:16.347-04:002014-07-18T17:28:16.347-04:00When you to RO from salt water feedstock you get 3...When you to RO from salt water feedstock you get 300 ppm which is pretty nasty. It's for washing dishes, taking showers and stuff on desert islands. You have to double pass it to get anything remotely drinkable. Another problem is unqualified technicians taking the RO discharge and running straight onto the land creating a wasteland. I've seen quit a bit of that as well, and even worse, running diesel generators flat out 24 hours a day to power these things. What a freakin mess. And these are the guys saying alternative energy is terrible and we need nukes to run RO.<br /><br />Fuck em. And of course, Russell comes here to defend these idiots.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-59716149005588826902014-07-18T16:38:26.588-04:002014-07-18T16:38:26.588-04:00The reverse osmosis plant I most come in contact w...The reverse osmosis plant I most come in contact with is on Sanibel Island. The water is just nasty. We buy bottled water for drinking when we visit. As do many of the inhabitants there.Jeffrey Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966839006518642902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-25668494600441393582014-07-16T18:15:34.996-04:002014-07-16T18:15:34.996-04:00Oops, sorry, I didn't look at the graphic befo...Oops, sorry, I didn't look at the graphic before I posted, lol. Woosh.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24034027394435069932014-07-16T18:13:23.422-04:002014-07-16T18:13:23.422-04:00I don't know about that, the sun seems to be s...I don't know about that, the sun seems to be shining brightly again today, and it manages to effect the energy cascade down into the ultraviolet and optical just fine.<br /><br />What you do with those free photons is still totally up to you, though. At the very least I suggest you boil some water and make some steam. Or at least evaporate some and make some clean and fresh distilled water.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58868983968881974282014-07-16T17:23:45.540-04:002014-07-16T17:23:45.540-04:00Self-sustaining nuclear fusion is 499 seconds away...Self-sustaining nuclear fusion is 499 seconds away, and always will be.<br />http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/venus/q89.htmlHank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36921758504092032482014-07-16T16:15:48.640-04:002014-07-16T16:15:48.640-04:00Criticizing the terminology, nomenclature, grammar...Criticizing the terminology, nomenclature, grammar and spelling is a dead giveaway that you've lost the argument. No nuclei, water molecules or innocent higher lifeforms were harmed in the making of this steam. Some bacteria undoubtedly perished however.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38254562884516607162014-07-15T16:43:25.320-04:002014-07-15T16:43:25.320-04:00How much water goes down the drain trying to get t...<i>How much water goes down the drain trying to get the shower hot?</i><br /><br />These people are aficionados of primitive plumbing arrangements. It's downright ... Romanesque.<br /><br />They're more concerned with resale value than they are saving Earth.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24500606084434258752014-07-15T16:40:46.215-04:002014-07-15T16:40:46.215-04:00I think it's more a matter of the thermal neut...I think it's more a matter of the thermal neutrons and the radioactive nucleons. It takes a while and makes a huge mess to get it down to the eV level, let alone down to the microwaves necessary to make steam from water molecules.<br /><br />Your ignorance is showing. But by all means, do continue. Anything you say will be used against you. This stuff is archived and in a couple of years another willard will come along and regurgitate.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86128440733955951962014-07-15T15:03:39.395-04:002014-07-15T15:03:39.395-04:00Tom writes thus of fallout from the dreaded Electr...Tom writes thus of fallout from the dreaded Electron Volt :<br /><br />"Thus rendering the surrounding concrete, land and water unfit to drink. I don't need the hassle."<br /><br />Perhaps he should switch to gluten free or organic sunlight, as the common sort averages upwards of 1.1 eV per photon- O the humanity !THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85966318244134338092014-07-15T12:53:11.082-04:002014-07-15T12:53:11.082-04:00How much water goes down the drain trying to get t...How much water goes down the drain trying to get the shower hot?Why Hockey Sticks are Truehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060543508611206166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-2897521295565267482014-07-15T08:27:19.398-04:002014-07-15T08:27:19.398-04:00Thus rendering the surrounding concrete, land and ...Thus rendering the surrounding concrete, land and water unfit to drink. I don't need the hassle.<br /><br />Besides, when the water condenses I get my energy back, in the form that I can easily radiate away. All it requires is that I cover my reservoir with a piece of slanted glass. Gravity does the rest. I can tell that you've never done this. I have, every step of it. Good luck in the zombie apocalypse, you'll need it. I wish you well, but don't ask me for advice when it comes. Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-25498950172384027172014-07-15T06:49:11.725-04:002014-07-15T06:49:11.725-04:00Tom, Tom, an electron volt is ~10,600 Kelvins--
...Tom, Tom, an electron volt is ~10,600 Kelvins-- <br /><br />Just think how many molecules you could boil with several hundred million of the things !THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38877855637157088852014-07-15T05:08:18.486-04:002014-07-15T05:08:18.486-04:00Reverse ósmosis units are quite common. I have one...Reverse ósmosis units are quite common. I have one installed at home and our drinking water tastes fine. The water here is a mixture of water from the town's reverse osmosis plant and water pumped from reservoirs which gather water from aquifers in carbonate rocks in nearby mountains. <br /><br />However, the original post is right, we do leak a lot of water. In some countries the water leaks are left up repaired, and this causes erosion of the soil around the leak. In some cases, for example in Caracas where the government has broken down and there's very little maintenance I saw huge craters in the streets after they collapsed due to the large cavities caused by such leaks. Things are so bad in Caracas right now they have water rationing and some days the water is cut off for 24 hours in a row. And yet there's no sign of improved maintenance. Fernando Leanmehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16085680730729620836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-53812432389500584162014-07-14T20:52:14.099-04:002014-07-14T20:52:14.099-04:00The water produced by reverse osmosis is unfit for...The water produced by reverse osmosis is unfit for drinking. Jeffrey Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966839006518642902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41104996025764417932014-07-14T12:10:28.575-04:002014-07-14T12:10:28.575-04:00Just off hand I'm guessing I don't need se...Just off hand I'm guessing I don't need several hundred million electron volts per molecule.<br /><br />Idiocy ... personified.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-89829188111043757172014-07-14T10:55:42.286-04:002014-07-14T10:55:42.286-04:00" you don't need a nuclear reactor to mak..." you don't need a nuclear reactor to make steam "<br /><br />No. But you need energy and if you want a lot of steam, you need a lot of energy.<br /><br />Canmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55379675680401613262014-07-14T08:21:08.063-04:002014-07-14T08:21:08.063-04:00Reverse osmosis desalinization is a very expensive...Reverse osmosis desalinization is a very expensive, energy intensive, mechanically complex and messy process, and as Eli has already pointed out it has already made a mess of the third world. Unless there is some sort of 'magic membrane', distillation is a better approach since it already occurs on a large scale naturally, and delivers the desired result - ultra pure water. Reverse osmosis takes a second pass and even that tastes pretty bad. I'd rather drink rain but even rain nowadays is iffy.<br /><br />Regardless, you don't need a nuclear reactor to make steam.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-42526187460371347562014-07-14T05:55:00.188-04:002014-07-14T05:55:00.188-04:00Canman: but where are you going to get the cooling...Canman: but where are you going to get the cooling water for the nukes from?turboblockenoreply@blogger.com