tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post2136339575334045429..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Dead Ball GameEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-27462147278253371722013-02-13T15:26:23.529-05:002013-02-13T15:26:23.529-05:00Given fluorescents and other such, everyone using ...Given fluorescents and other such, everyone using more energy everyday may not be such a safe bet.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91969227200559857072013-02-13T12:54:02.671-05:002013-02-13T12:54:02.671-05:00The problem is that people do not recognize that J...The problem is that people do not recognize that Jevon's paradox and efficiency are very uninteresting questions in the grand scheme of climate mitigation. And most people using those terms talk past one another, since how you can define them is slippery, with one definition or the other being tied very strongly to micro-policy situation under investigation and study assumptions. Jevon's paradox is fuzzy.<br /><br />Coal to liquids could end up being cheaper, in real terms, that any oil being used now. If you think that will result in people using, to a degree significant to the climate, less or more of the stuff, because of an understanding you snatched from an argument between the breakthrough people and some sustainability people, who are mainly taking past each other with regards to Jevon's paradox, then you need to give you head a little shake. <br /><br />Howsoever you care to measure Jevon's paradox in a particular application, it is likely utterly irrelevant to climate change mitigation. And apart from the fact that anyone who includes a "wedge" called "efficiency" in a worldwide climate stabilisation scheme has not first proved that they are not deluding themselves, how much is the rebound effect going to alter that wedge: probably very little either way.<br /><br />Just look at world history: everyone, everywhere, uses more energy, year after year. Nobody has shown that Jevon's paradox matters the slightest in the big scheme of things. It's tic-tac stuff.<br /><br />As a psychologist might say, you need a vacation from even thinking about Joe Romm and the Breakthrough Institute (because that's where I think this fixation comes from -- am I wrong?). I don't care. The world doesn't care. Why should I care?crfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726414637021391906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41328115853425102652013-02-13T07:26:05.063-05:002013-02-13T07:26:05.063-05:00Don't understimate the extent of potentially e...Don't understimate the extent of potentially economic coal out Wyoming way- the depletion of the cheapest , which is all they've mined so far, leaves an abundance of the merely cheap and cheaper.<br /><br />To get some idea of the gigatonnage, take a look at the NAS/NAE CONAES study, written a few years before the Energy Crisis turned into the Oil Glut.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43806991258965456742013-02-12T20:52:19.756-05:002013-02-12T20:52:19.756-05:00And GKRW do mention carbon pricing at the end...And GKRW do mention <i>carbon pricing</i> at the end...David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.com