tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post1546668485163408745..comments2024-03-18T03:27:18.777-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: What the C Stands ForEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-2027671854943506272013-01-24T08:47:38.990-05:002013-01-24T08:47:38.990-05:00Oops, sorry, I borked the link again. Good luck. Y...Oops, sorry, I <a href="http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/" rel="nofollow">borked</a> the link again. Good luck. You'll need it, because basically, you're idiots, arguing over idiotic shit, and then posting links to more idiotic shit, and even worse, invoking Biosphere 2 in a scientific and technological environment as if it means something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-80789970535455120992013-01-24T08:41:02.017-05:002013-01-24T08:41:02.017-05:00With all due respect, Tom Murphy is a freakin idio...With all due respect, Tom Murphy is a freakin idiot. In my honest opinion he has his head firmly stuck up his ass. The math is simple, 7 to 9 billion humans and a 20 trillion dollar US public debt. If you want to join in with band aid solutions to those two problems, then you too are firmly in the idiot camp. If you would like to read a series of papers which clearly outline a solution to your idiot problem (you) then go <a href="webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Thanks in advance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-42648427362772756202013-01-23T20:22:16.303-05:002013-01-23T20:22:16.303-05:00Tom Murphy's "Why Not Space?" and &q...Tom Murphy's "Why Not Space?" and "Stranded Resources" have a lot of bad math.<br /><br />Murphy doesn't know how to splice conics correctly, the Oberth benefit is known to most freshmen aerospace students. Nor does he seem to know about aerobraking or 3 body mechanics as used by Belbruno, Lo and others.<br /><br />Here's my critique of Murphy's posts:<br />http://hopsblog-hop.blogspot.com/2012/02/in-his-blog-stranded-resources-tom.html<br /><br />Those who cite "Why Not Space?" demonstrate they haven't bothered to do the math.Hop Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12923433894475072056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-20356560583618155452013-01-21T22:02:58.545-05:002013-01-21T22:02:58.545-05:00Scares the living hell out of me.
As well it shou...<i>Scares the living hell out of me.</i><br /><br />As well it should, living on a terrestrial planet with a molten core, surrounded by numerous geological, meteorological and astronomical hazards as you are.<br /><br />All I am proposing is taking control of the situation, and I have provided you with numerous methods by way that control may be obtained. It's an adult thing.<br /><br />If anybody has anything to bring to the conversation I would love to hear about it, but merely claiming that technology is not capable of evolving to accommodate these problems is not credible. This has been shown over and over again not to be the case, through any number of recent examples.<br /><br />The question is how soon.<br /><br />Something has to be done quick because the option of rationality and contraception doesn't appear to be working for a rabidly fascist and religious humanity obsessed with greed and outwardly nutty beliefs. Like, for instance, claiming that spaceflight will never be routine, while offering not a shred of evidence to back up this obviously false claim, and then offering nothing in the way of credible alternatives..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-79052001580635173932013-01-21T19:52:13.722-05:002013-01-21T19:52:13.722-05:00Actally, the "airline" paradigm is alrea...Actally, the "airline" paradigm is already in the works. NASA's commercial crew is going to simply book passage to the space station on commercial space vehicles for astronauts. Scares the living hell out of me.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4623913231270276272013-01-21T18:52:25.598-05:002013-01-21T18:52:25.598-05:00I agree, financial, economic, agricultural and env...I agree, financial, economic, agricultural and environmental collapse will intercede well before that. All I propose is postponement. However, on the issue of evolution, everything we know about it is contrary to your claim.<br /><br />Again, you have nothing. Not even noise. Please try harder, ok? Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41628603435513369452013-01-21T17:49:18.864-05:002013-01-21T17:49:18.864-05:00Not at all, at the moment your claim appears to be...Not at all, at the moment your claim appears to be that space travel will evolve into something airline like. That is not a given, no matter what you think. guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-8943281507303517812013-01-20T14:12:07.907-05:002013-01-20T14:12:07.907-05:00Hey, I'm all for extinction, but there is alwa...Hey, I'm all for extinction, but there is always a couple that escape.<br /><br />I just am not into annihilation. It's much more pleasant for the species if you use contraceptives to do it. Extinction by attrition.<br /><br />But extinction isn't necessary, just attrition, and a remotely operated robotic lunar industrial facility to give the homies something to do for their day jobs.<br /><br />The claim that space travel won't evolve into airline like operations just don't hold water. The main thing is to have something for the people to do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-50846208413561850412013-01-20T12:38:52.002-05:002013-01-20T12:38:52.002-05:00kT: "Leave, or go extinct."
Eli: "...kT: "Leave, or go extinct."<br /><br />Eli: "Leave and we will go extinct."<br /><br />What's wrong with going extinct? Let's keep the option open.<br /><br />MalMal Adaptedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123525780458234978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-87566899238575684952013-01-20T07:04:44.382-05:002013-01-20T07:04:44.382-05:00I definitely posted a reply yesterday, is in the s...I definitely posted a reply yesterday, is in the spamfolder?guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-89177107954637316572013-01-19T15:42:36.655-05:002013-01-19T15:42:36.655-05:00Sure, whatever Dilbert. When you can post a link t...Sure, whatever Dilbert. When you can post a link to your stuff, let me know. Thanks in advance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15244501347663013832013-01-19T15:28:53.105-05:002013-01-19T15:28:53.105-05:00kT,
OK, I'll take that as a confession that yo...kT,<br />OK, I'll take that as a confession that you've got nothing.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-27488886336722202812013-01-19T14:59:46.084-05:002013-01-19T14:59:46.084-05:00fantastic, non-existent technology
none of us hav...<i>fantastic, non-existent technology</i><br /><br /><i>none of us have said your ideas of sending stuff into space won't work.</i><br /><br />You know, I'm going to do everyone a favor watching this thread and quit responding to you because there is no there there. It's all space. But thanks for the noise.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-82325662543856833322013-01-19T14:52:09.645-05:002013-01-19T14:52:09.645-05:00Show me how you get millions of people off the pla...<i>Show me how you get millions of people off the planet.</i><br /><br />Contraceptives. Latex dude. I would have thought that would have been obvious, at least to an ecologist.<br /><br />If you are interested in ecology, then study it. If you are interested in high density plant based closed ecological life support systems, then study those.<br /><br />If you have anything cogent to say about planetary responses to known ecological catastrophe then I'd be willing to listen to that too. But my responses here are based upon your remarks here, and any links you provide me with here. Eli followed up an interesting post with a reference to Biosphere II, and since I am intimately familiar with the Biosphere 2 saga and its participants, and intimately familiar with planetary ecological catastrophe as well and methods of dealing with it, then keep trying to dig yourself out of the very deep holes you have dug for yourself here, because I'm game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86425234109785718122013-01-19T14:39:27.129-05:002013-01-19T14:39:27.129-05:00OK, kT, prove me wrong. Show me how you get milli...OK, kT, prove me wrong. Show me how you get millions of people off the planet--and if you are going to assume launch costs of less than$10K/kg, tell me what propulsion mechanism you will use.<br /><br />You seem to be under the impression that by being nasty and dismissive, the transparent silliness of your ideas won't be evident. It ain't workin'.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-39783812767711538882013-01-19T14:28:04.950-05:002013-01-19T14:28:04.950-05:00That's an impressively good way to miss the po...That's an impressively good way to miss the point. Which is that none of us have said your ideas of sending stuff into space won't work.<br />Rather the issue is that they are irrelevant.<br />In fact, I'm amazed that anyone showing your level of narcissism can hold down a job at all.<br /><br />guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83198692261369260892013-01-19T13:41:55.761-05:002013-01-19T13:41:55.761-05:00I guess in your village that passes for debate on ...I guess in your village that passes for debate on the subject at hand.<br /><br /><a href="http://webpages.charter.net/tsiolkovsky/Moon_Base.pdf" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is an alternative. With links.<br /><br />Good luck with your future planetary ecological catastrophe. Remember always to smear your opponent and make sure to hat tip Biosphere II, and of course, Constellation. They set standards.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69490588576716551062013-01-19T13:34:47.379-05:002013-01-19T13:34:47.379-05:00Is there a law that says that the longer you spend...Is there a law that says that the longer you spend time on a blog or set of blogs which have a general topic slant, the greater the likelihood that all the trolls, fools, lunatics and kooks will come by?<br /><br />It seems kT has a very long history of insulting people and sounding like a low market version of our favourite autodidact from the creationist wars, D Scott.<br />e.g. <br />http://langrrr.blogspot.co.uk/2006/07/why-i-stopped-posting-to-usenet.html<br /><br />He's on the space forum roster off trolls from 2 years ago:<br />http://gaetanomarano.blogspot.co.uk/<br />Confused the Stoat by blethering on aimlessly about his obsessions:<br />http://scienceblogs.com/stoat/2011/05/14/comets-make-men-mad/<br />guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1985134429081672922013-01-19T13:26:39.942-05:002013-01-19T13:26:39.942-05:00Fear not kT
I'm sure there would be room for ...Fear not kT<br /><br />I'm sure there would be room for you as well on the nuclear powered rocket to the stars.<br /><br />And you could even keep posting here though -- there would be a delay, of course, though that probably would not matter, since you seem to be having a conversation with yourself, at any rate.<br /><br />~@:>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-89091166229443203102013-01-19T13:25:57.482-05:002013-01-19T13:25:57.482-05:00Connoiseurs of fruitcakes may enjoy this link, whe...Connoiseurs of fruitcakes may enjoy this link, where kt appears to be arguing with himself:<br /><br />http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2010/09/watchdog-nasa-chief-missteps-on-ethics.html<br />guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5170012392542957312013-01-19T13:00:06.525-05:002013-01-19T13:00:06.525-05:00The problem, kt, is that you've jumped in here...The problem, kt, is that you've jumped in here and not said anything ubstantive on the problem of the thread, which is the threat of global warming and attendant issues such as sea level change and oceanic acidification.<br />Instead, you've diverted it nicely onto your hobby horse, which appears to be getting some people off earth so if we totally screw things up here, some humans might survive elsewhere.<br /><br />You've not posted any evidence of your approach or what it could do either, which I suppose at least saves the bandwidth.<br />You aren't even very good at making yourself sound important.<br /><br />So, tell us why you are here?guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-37732583660964846142013-01-19T10:46:43.498-05:002013-01-19T10:46:43.498-05:00Dilbert, if anything you say had any basis in real...Dilbert, if anything you say had any basis in reality we would still be living in caves. Your comment is completely without any basis.<br /><br />But thanks for trying. But then again, I wasn't expecting much more from a bunch of government hacks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-32458183063122519522013-01-19T10:43:16.639-05:002013-01-19T10:43:16.639-05:00pitching unusual new approaches to an idea which h...<i>pitching unusual new approaches to an idea which has no room for most of humanity</i><br /><br />What, nothing about personal computers, and aluminum tubes carrying 500 people at 35,000 feet at 500 mph to their destinations for a few hundred dollars each? Jeez!<br /><br />Can anyone here explain to me why I am spending even a few seconds responding to this obvious scientific and technological idiot? Thanks in advance. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41329444351863888922013-01-19T10:38:33.129-05:002013-01-19T10:38:33.129-05:00kT, you do understand that you haven't address...kT, you do understand that you haven't addressed any of the main objections to your plans--e.g. that you could not hope to support more than a few thousand people on a lunar or Martian colony, and even then, these colonies would likely not be self-sufficient long term, right? The 2nd law of Thermo really is a cruel bitch.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-21718901652487948842013-01-19T10:38:05.542-05:002013-01-19T10:38:05.542-05:00It's not the politicians that are screwing up ...It's not the politicians that are screwing up the world, it's you.<br /><br />And yes, the moon isn't Hawaii. Great insight and profound comment. That's the point of going there. But I guess you missed that point. I guess you also missed the point that the poles of the moon are unique in this solar system as well. As are the solar and lunar Lagrange points. So by all means, carry on with your delusions that you will fix the problems with the technology you have on hand today and your delusions about where the technology you do have comes from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com