A somewhat recent, but hardly noticed paper (open link) has appeared in Energy and Environment 18 (5) 2007 emitted by William Nierneberg’s accomplice in killing off early, and less expensive action on climate change, Gary Yohe, Eli’s old friend Richard Tol who thought Nicholas Stern should be stood up against the wall and striped of his economic stripes,
Really, climate policy would have been in a better place without Nick Stern.and Dean Murphy, who for now will remain glissless. The conclusions are extraordinary given the source
The Stern Review and the Fourth Assessment Report of the IPCC together seem to have silenced the public debate on the reality of the risks of climate change. We do not know which contributed more, but the Stern Review clearly put the economics of climate change in the public attention.Not that anyone noticed over here, or over here, or over there or even in never never take action land and certainly not anywhere near the wizard of denial and his acolytes.
On the one hand, this is a good thing. Economists have a technocratic streak, and public scrutiny of their policy advice is absolutely necessary (Funtowicz and Ravetz, 1994; Funtowicz et al., 1998). On the other hand, successful emission reduction will require a global, century-long effort.On the one hand is required in every paper written by an economist. FDR was rumored to have a standing reward of a thousand dollars for a one handed economist. But then dear bunnies, come the kids who killed their parents to plea for mercy on the grounds they are orphans
The Stern Review enflamed rather than enlightened the discussion from which the effort will emerge. Where consensus is needed, controversy was flamed. This was true for the immediate aftermath of the publication of the Stern Review, and it may still be true.Eli is inclined to be not very nice on this point, as those who stirred the flames now find that they were wrong, as we shall see, not for the right reasons. Still they did get there, and publication in E&E brings this point home. The bottom line is the place Eli has been since he came up with Eli Rabett’s Simple Plan to Save the World.
Let us hope that this is not the case for the future. Let us hope that Leonardt’s (2007) final observation from his day at Yale carries the day now that the dust is settling: “In other words, it’s time for a tax on carbon emissions”.Here is the beginning of my post.Yohe, Tol and Murphy (YTM) argue that of the two possible choices, cap and trade and taxing emissions, taxing emissions is the best. Eli agrees, with the caveat that the tax has to deal with the free rider problem, something not considered in this paper. With the nice nice out of the way readers can now proceed to the snark. The purpose of this paper appears to be to provide cover to the authors for their previous nasty nasty about Stern. The bottom line is that Stern was right, but the report was not written as they would have liked, and that all misunderstandings were caused by Nick Stern not providing them with a personal explanation and writing a report that was not crystal clear to every idiot on the street. For the last, Eli will take their word. As YTM put it
The numerical results reported in the Review are controversial and value-laden, but that is the nature of the economic science. In some instances, the controversy has been created by people who want to undermine confidence in the Review’s fundamental conclusion - the economics of climate policy tells us unambiguously that it is time to act.A very important point, which needs to be driven home
YTM go on to say
In other instances, the controversy can be attributed to economists being economists – arguing over every point to make sure that this fundamental conclusion is built on solid analytical and empirical ground. In both cases, unusually harsh words have been said about the Stern Review. We have participated in this discussion in large measure because we are convinced that the Review provides sufficient evidence to support its fundamental conclusion with very high confidence. We are, though, concerned that this confidence may not have been as influential as it could have been because the Review may be right for reasons for the wrong reasons.It is amusing to troll through the net searching for the kind words that YTM said about the Stern report when it was issued, especially in the light of this paper being written only four months afterwards.
YTM provide a list of conclusions from Stern and the IPCC AR4 report which should drive policy responses
a. Climate is changing faster than was anticipated only 5 years ago in the Third Assessment Report of the IPCC (2001); indeed, the signs of human-induced climate change are now being observed.The sharpening of the AR4 on these points with respect to the TAR and the Stern report answer Stoat’s question about why the AR4 makes Stern even more pessimistic about climate change then he was in Fall 2006.
b. Significant climate impacts have been calibrated in terms of multiple metrics, and the thresholds of associated climate risk have been identified in terms of changes in global mean temperature; some of these metrics are economic, but many of them are not.
c. Many of the temperature thresholds for critical impacts are, regardless of the metric, now thought to be lower than anticipated only 5 years ago; it follows that we are approaching them more quickly than we thought, and so we will reach them sooner than we thought.
The next point is one the Pielke Jr. does not get, although it has been explained to him multiple times by multiple people, some even nicely, at least the first few times.
d. Achieving any concentration threshold cannot guarantee that we will be able to keep increases in global mean temperature below any specific target; in fact, achieving a concentration target can only reduce the likelihood of keeping temperature increases below any target at any point in time in the future.They refer to the chart of damages in the Stern Report (and by inference in the AR4) loosely relating greenhouse gas concentrations, which
e. Achieving any concentration threshold may, therefore, only delay inevitable increases in temperature unless persistent policy intervention over the entire century and perhaps beyond is undertaken.
. . . in terms of warming, are the basis for believing that the debate over the science of whether or not there is climate risk is over. To be more precise, while none of these thresholds is known with certainty, it is now impossible to argue that all of them are completely implausible. . . . While one may quibble about the precise numbers, their order of magnitude is not disputed.Of course, we have heard the roar of quibble from the denialist side.
Our orphan ecomists, then make their argument for absolution without acknowledging their role aiding and abetting, even in stirring up.
The Stern Review’s estimates of economic damages and the cost of mitigation have been controversial within the economics research community in part because they are difficult to understandYTM, Nordhaus and Co, are paid the big bucks supposedly because they are supposed to understand such things and explain them to us. They then, as usual attempt to place the blame elsewhere,
It is important to note in passing, however, that much of the controversy might have been avoided if the Review had been subject to a proper peer review before its release. This point was made by William Nordhaus at what was, in effect, a day long, public, and ex post peer review hosted by Yale University on February 15, 2007. The Stern author team admitted as much during that event, but they expressed concern that pre-publication review would have meant that bits of the Review would have been inappropriately leaked to the press.OTOH, perhaps YTM, N and others could have held their tongues until they understood what the Stern Report said. Eli is a dreamer. But enough of this, let us summarize the policy that YTM recommend because of climate risk, policy makers should focus on
“buying insurance” against economic consequences of climate change and the economic consequences of rapidly ramping-up climate policy in the future. As soon they recognize that some sort of policy will be required . . .simple economics says that taking the least cost approach means starting now.Such issues have known policy solutions where one starts by specifying
This conclusion is true in large measure because atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases depend on cumulative emissions over time. As a result, achieving any targeted concentration limit (and thus a corresponding range of possible temperature increases and associated climate risks) is fundamentally an exhaustible resource problem.
an initial price of carbon (or perhaps setting targeted permit price for a cap and trade system). This price should be designed to get the attention of the business community and to show political leadership in the face of a serious problem. It need not, however, be set so high that it would cause undue economic harm in the short-run. Allowing the carbon price to increase at the rate of interest year after year (following Hotelling) and acknowledging that adjustments for new knowledge about performance and risk will have to be accommodated over time will give the policy traction.Evidently, YTM have read J. Willard Rabett’s dicta about climate change, that there are infinite procrastination penalties, and that the world has to start addressing the man made climate change issue now, things that adaptation does not address
Because the expected costs of adjusting to more pessimistic climate news sometime in the future if we delay taking action are higher than the expected costs of doing too much too soon (even with discounting at the market rate of interest).An example is provided where emissions can be cut by encouraging a change over to natural gas
. . . Since no policy created in 2007 will “solve the climate problem”, it is perhaps even desirable to step out from under that burden to confront a more manageable near-term problem while still making progress towards an ultimate response to an evolving understanding of climate risk. The answer to “What to do in the near-term?” is to design something that will (1) discourage long-term investments in energy, transportation, and construction that would lock in high carbon intensities for decades to come and (2) encourage development of alternative energy sources, carbon sequestration technologies and efficiency.
Because natural gas is a considerably more expensive fuel than coal, it takes a substantial CO2 cost to overcome this fuel cost disadvantage – about $30/ton, on current fuel price expectations in the U.S. On the other hand, consider pending investments to add new generating capacity in the United States over the next few decades. Much of this capacity is currently planned as conventional coal-fired technology. What would it take, in terms of CO2 price, to make it economic to install new gas-fired capacity instead, thereby cutting by half the carbon emissions from this new capacity? On current gas price expectations, a CO2 price of only $5 per ton would be sufficient to make new gas-fired generators as economical as new coal-fired plants, based on the present value of fixed and variable costs. This number is much lower for new plants than the $30/ton seen above for existing plants because the lower cost of building a new gas plant compensates for some of its higher fuel cost.Providing a floor price of carbon to safeguard and encourage investments in lower emission technologies is a key and often lost point. Carbon taxes and cap and trade regimes are not punitive but mechanisms to drive investment toward lower emissions and eventually a carbon neutral economy. They make explicit the costs to the world of high carbon emissions.Eli is greatly encouraged that the world´s best economists have finally caught up to a stuffed bunny. He is sure they will agree but only after accusing him of being obtuse
Already being looked into at the level of individual contract language:
ReplyDeleteGoogled:
carbon cap trade market cleantech
Found, for example, this:
May 2008
http://www.mofo.com/news/updates/files/13813.html
"Know What You Have And Make Sure It Is Yours: Evaluation And Ownership Of Carbon Value"
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"... businesses should expressly address how ownership of the carbon reducing value of what they sell will be allocated in the contracts or other business arrangements that they are currently negotiating and executing. By leaving this issue unaddressed, however, not only are businesses potentially undervaluing their assets, but they are also exposing themselves to an unnecessary risk that these emission-reducing values will be taken away.
The Carbon Disclosure Project (CDP) .... Many of the world's largest companies presently participate in the CDP, a voluntary effort that encourages businesses to quantify and disclose their greenhouse gas emissions in reports. Some speculate that the Securities and Exchange Commission will require such reporting in the future. These CDP reports often include not just an estimate of a company's current greenhouse gas emissions, but also an estimate of the offsets the company has obtained. One common source of offsets is renewable energy projects that displace existing or planned fossil fuel power plants. In CDP reports, businesses often detail their purchase of renewable energy and then independently calculate the carbon offsets that this energy represents. What these reports may overlook, however, is whether the underlying renewable energy purchases included, excluded, or were silent on the transfer of carbon offsets. One might assume that the carbon offset transfers with the renewable energy. But that assumption may prove incorrect. Several renewable energy providers now market their renewable energy certificates and carbon offsets separately. In fact, certain certificates may even expressly reserve the ownership of the carbon reductions. Because the CDP is still voluntary and evolving, such a misunderstanding on carbon reduction ownership may never be discovered ... this ownership allocation issue will become increasingly important...."
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[Claimer; any typos are my fault]
Carbon Disclosure Project:
http://www.cdproject.net/cdp4reports.asp
Well, I noticed if the paper refed here:
ReplyDeletehttp://bigcitylib.blogspot.com/2007/10/richard-tol-changes-tune-talks-carbon.html#links
is the one you're thinking of. The story is Tol read Weitz(?) (the guy who thinks we're all frikken doomed) and had a conversion. Tol says, no, he was always on side. No word on the status of Tol's hair recently. I've actually come to like it that way.
"Firstly, a supposedly eminent economist made a fool of himself in the public eye. This increases the general distrust of the public. Secondly, anyone who dislikes climate policy can quote Stern to demonstrate what fools climate policy advocates are." -- Richard Tol
ReplyDeleteAs they say it takes one to know one.
BCL: Is it possible that his hair is a window on his mind?
If you missed...
ReplyDeletehttp://geosci.uchicago.edu/~rtp1/papers/LawReviewCatastrophe.pdf
Thanks Magnus, I certainly did miss that.
ReplyDeleteAlso apologies to bcl.
ReplyDeleteThe teams are choosing new sides. Eli thinks Tol is no longer Roger´s favorite economist and Tol himself has moved, an interesting development.
Tol has moved because he is (just) smart enough to realize that if he did not, he would just look like an idiot.
ReplyDeletebased on Pielke (jr)'s continued "arguments" with former Oxford mathematician James Annan about elementary statistics, I'd have to say that RP may never come to that realization.
The statistical comedy in N parts continues at Prometheus:
ReplyDeleteIt's the political "scientist" (RPjr) and the mechanical engineer (Lucia)
"It's clear that James Annan would like to focus on one specific question, which evidently, he thinks is "the" question."
VS the mathematician/professional climate modeler (James Annan)
No, I merely think that when the question is asked, it should be answered competently. You and Lucia both got it hopelessly, totally and utterly wrong.
Excellent entertainment!
It's interesting to watch Roger 'at work' in that thread linked above -- trying to twist his claims into a form that he feels he can defend.
ReplyDeleteRoger's use of the t test was not valid -- dumb, actually -- which was pointed out to him.
When backed into a corner from which he could not escape, he pulled out the cliched "But, but ...you [James] are asking a different question than I am".
Roger should have his PhD revoked, in my opinion. The guy is a moron.
Roger is a nice guy, but...
ReplyDeleteHis logic is about the worst there is. He is incautious. He is biased, and doesn't seem to realize. He won't admit to errors, although he does learn.
Lucia is also nice, but again has problems with bias and logic. E.g. here...
"In most fields, modelers take even apparent inconsistencies between the central tendencies of their predictions and the phenomena they wish to observe quite seriously.
Hopefully, climate modelers are able to identify and admit inconsistencies in private, even if they wish to prevent others from discussing them in public."
The assumption is that climate modelers do not publicly examine errors/inconsistencies. The bias is not checking the assumption. The error in logic is equating public explanations of why a test is not meaningful, and why it does not satisfy the test description, with not wishing to engage in a public discussion(!)
Taking the narrow view, that the IPCC multi-decade trend prediction is a number, out of the context of the mean of a spread, is another example of bias.
Afaiac, the definition of skeptic is to test all assumptions that can be tested.
We need more skeptics.
The problem with Roger (and some others) is that he makes rather sweeping claims "IPCC falsified". "Hansen right for wrong reason" without even properly understanding the issue (beforehand).
ReplyDeleteWhen it is pointed out to him that "No that is not what the IPCC graph shows" he acts as if it is their fault that he did not bother to find out what it actually meant before he made his claim.
he may not realize it, but he is adding little if anything of value to the conversation when he does this stuff and (perhaps unwittingly) he is distracting people from the real issues.