tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post9017506248058015349..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Chait gets itEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-72843486031064251862014-08-16T07:07:51.033-04:002014-08-16T07:07:51.033-04:00"US of A bigger emission's than India and...<i>"US of A bigger emission's than India and China combined?<br /><br />no---no....no,,,,tweenty years ago...yes ...now ...no ...no ,,,no"</i><br /><br />Outsourcing: look it up. You do know when a magician makes someone disappear from the box it isn't real magic, right?J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-60428852141990519432014-08-16T00:00:50.915-04:002014-08-16T00:00:50.915-04:00What Minniesmum said: in the second half of this ...What Minniesmum said: in the second half of this century, a fair way to equalize post-1980 emissions would be for poor countries to have zero-to-slightly positive GHG emissions, while rich countries have strongly negative GHG emissions.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1151858823676392632014-08-13T13:05:35.387-04:002014-08-13T13:05:35.387-04:00or burning lots of wood, swamplands that are now d...or burning lots of wood, swamplands that are now deplected of CH4 because parts of china are water greedy....<br /><br />US of A bigger emission's than India and China combined?<br /><br />no---no....no,,,,tweenty years ago...yes ...now ...no ...no ,,,no<br /><br />The latest value: 6,048,436 km2 (August 12, 2014) nobody know's how many gigaton's of CO2 china is .....noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-63886210223819074782014-08-11T12:06:35.993-04:002014-08-11T12:06:35.993-04:00People are looking at this in the wrong way. This...People are looking at this in the wrong way. This is a race. Whoever develops a modern energy infrastructure that is carbon neutral or even negative is going to be very, very rich.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43455069800670435742014-08-10T20:28:46.927-04:002014-08-10T20:28:46.927-04:00BDL,
In short, equally.
LennyBDL,<br /><br />In short, equally.<br /><br />LennyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-47593352391723615022014-08-10T19:43:26.607-04:002014-08-10T19:43:26.607-04:00Anon: how can those emissions be fairly apportion...Anon: how can those emissions be fairly apportioned?<br /><br />BPL: Everybody should reduce as much as possible, as fast as possible.Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24798912968416952212014-08-10T16:34:34.254-04:002014-08-10T16:34:34.254-04:00"I don't get the guy's point. Is he t..."I don't get the guy's point. Is he trying to say the USA has some kind of debt because it emitted CO2 in the past? Sounds quite impractical." <br /><br />There are a couple of practical possibilities, in the future at least. For the time being, everyone should be reducing and avoiding CO2 release. Preferably they should also be investing in avoiding future release by upgrading and retrofitting infrastructure and buildings, abandoning some if necessary. <br /><br />However, some time in the next couple of decades there will be some serious contenders in the technology of CO2 absorption. Even if there are no new technologies, we might think it's worth the trouble and cost of simply quarrying and grinding up easily accessible olivine and similar rocks. At That Point I think it would be reasonable for Europe, US and other early high emitters to pay the bills for those activities regardless of where they're undertaken. <br /><br />If everybody does their part in reducing emissions now, those of us who contributed most to raising the CO2 concentration the most should pay for that. <br /><br />As for a "start date" for when we shoulda woulda coulda done better on emissions. I'd suggest the date of Jimmy Carter's speech about the solar panels on the White House. (I honestly thought when we bought our own solar hot water system 25 years ago that there would have been no other option by now. At least in Australia. And I'm now living in a house with gas hot water.)MinniesMumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40736171991525973552014-08-10T07:12:57.796-04:002014-08-10T07:12:57.796-04:00"I was not the one that said anything about d...<i>"I was not the one that said anything about defending Europe"</i><br /><br />So, did you understand yet how our staple crops including rice are grasses? Have you looked into the subject any further, like the ideal temperature for civilisation being 30C +/-5C, unless you want a staple diet of tomatoes and pine cones?J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18038496595747800822014-08-10T06:49:17.128-04:002014-08-10T06:49:17.128-04:00"So you're telling me CO2 causes incontin..."So you're telling me CO2 causes incontinence?"<br /><br />Ever have a colonoscopy?EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-12285660599343027812014-08-09T15:04:18.592-04:002014-08-09T15:04:18.592-04:00" Who is more guilty than whom is completely ..." Who is more guilty than whom is completely irrelevant to the problem."<br /><br />It's irrelevant to the the question of how much CO2 can be safely emitted.<br />But that's not the question being discussed. <br /><i>That</i> question is, <i>how can those emissions be fairly apportioned?</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-28190644031654005792014-08-09T12:05:01.187-04:002014-08-09T12:05:01.187-04:00Cugelmaus,
I was not the one that said anything a...Cugelmaus,<br /><br />I was not the one that said anything about defending Europe, that was someone else. I merely added that aid was given prior to Germany's declaration of war.<br /><br />Remind me of another word that starts with "C" and rhymes with bunt, just saying.<br /><br /><br />The only other person who actually "gets it" is BPL.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3382282618074310542014-08-09T10:26:21.072-04:002014-08-09T10:26:21.072-04:00Anon says :
"I love fiction ..."
Nobody...Anon says :<br /><br />"I love fiction ..."<br />Nobody doubts that.<br /><br />"Ah good ole straw man."<br />Followed, inevitably, by <br /><br />"The tired old imperialistic, capitalist American pig... yawn."<br />Your tired old counterfactual about the US "rescuing Europe" (from the Ottomans? The Sioux?) falls to good old US isolationism, which you equate with imperialism, presumably because they both begin with I. In that vein, note that Anonymous and Asswipe both begin with A. Just saying.Cugelmausnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9082864492843768682014-08-09T08:44:36.672-04:002014-08-09T08:44:36.672-04:00A molecule of CO2 does not have a "Made in US...A molecule of CO2 does not have a "Made in USA" or "Made in China" tag on it. Each has the same IR absorption cross-section at a given wavelength. Everybody has to cut back. Who is more guilty than whom is completely irrelevant to the problem.Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6711322136592472402014-08-09T08:12:05.046-04:002014-08-09T08:12:05.046-04:00"shit on their lawn "
Was that you?
I ..."shit on their lawn "<br /><br />Was that you?<br /><br />I was blaming the neighbor kids.<br /><br />So you're telling me CO2 causes incontinence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-67876874640096439172014-08-08T19:17:17.890-04:002014-08-08T19:17:17.890-04:00"Bowers, have you presented those CO2 papers ...<i>"Bowers, have you presented those CO2 papers to greenhouse growers yet?"</i><br /><br />Another example of your pig ignorance and you don't even know why.J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24971301471561847802014-08-08T16:53:01.003-04:002014-08-08T16:53:01.003-04:00> Panic by definition means you've given up...> Panic by definition means you've given up reason.<br /><br />Does it mean that as soon as you cancel your subscription to Reason, you get an issue of Panic for free?<br />willardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23704739048664771542014-08-08T15:02:44.545-04:002014-08-08T15:02:44.545-04:00Ok, that was another typo, I should know better to...Ok, that was another typo, I should know better to write on a hi res laptop screen with no glasses.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-54409254511142670212014-08-08T15:00:51.246-04:002014-08-08T15:00:51.246-04:00have you presented those CO2 papers to greenhouse ...<i>have you presented those CO2 papers to greenhouse growers yet?</i><br /><br />They are adding CO2 to a closed system, where intense plant growth draws CO2 down to negligible levels. The opposite happens in a spacecraft cabin. They have to add CO2 or the plants will starve. Disclaimer, I do know a little bit about this having started the grow room phenomenon way back in the 70's. Yes, it's true, moderately enhanced CO2 in a 'closed system' does increase yields somewhat, but that's not why they do it. If the greenhouse is well ventilated and an open system then they would just be wasting their CO3 wouldn't they, Lucifer. And that stuff is not cheap, either in cylinders or as dry ice.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5543941744099843212014-08-08T14:53:23.096-04:002014-08-08T14:53:23.096-04:00"Who is going to pay for..."
So when yo..."Who is going to pay for..."<br /><br />So when you drop a tree on someone's house and shit on their lawn you deduct the firewood and fertilizer value from the cleanup and repair costs.<br />How do you find telling people that they have to pay you for things they never agreed to buy works out for you?<br /><br />LennyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11975903842745690952014-08-08T11:11:44.907-04:002014-08-08T11:11:44.907-04:00Bowers, have you presented those CO2 papers to gre...Bowers, have you presented those CO2 papers to greenhouse growers yet?<br /><br />I'm sure they'd be interested to know that they could stop paying for extra CO2 and are hurting their yields.<br /><br /><br />LuciferAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-56312336981332209642014-08-08T11:06:34.177-04:002014-08-08T11:06:34.177-04:00"Panic by definition means you've given u...<i>"Panic by definition means you've given up reason."</i><br /><br />Which explains the denial campaign you're a useful idiot for: Big business and moneyed interests panicking over short term balance sheets.J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34101982703547063632014-08-08T11:04:16.042-04:002014-08-08T11:04:16.042-04:00"They do fail common sense and observations, ...<i>"They do fail common sense and observations, but whatever."</i><br /><br />Common sense? You're a fool. And some of those studies are based on experiment and observations, so you're an even bigger fool than I took you for, which I didn't think possible.J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40308262208298034332014-08-08T10:14:28.852-04:002014-08-08T10:14:28.852-04:00Willard,
Panic by definition means you've giv...Willard,<br /><br />Panic by definition means you've given up reason.<br /><br />The problems of the world are many, but a slowly rising global average temperature is not among them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-47526287304300207962014-08-08T10:09:24.300-04:002014-08-08T10:09:24.300-04:00Bowers,
those titles look pretty amusing.
They d...Bowers,<br /><br />those titles look pretty amusing.<br /><br />They do fail common sense and observations, but whatever.<br /><br />Education evidently doesn't inoculate against emotion.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-14736098588062852252014-08-08T09:52:50.162-04:002014-08-08T09:52:50.162-04:00"The US sold weapons to Britain. It would hav..."The US sold weapons to Britain. It would have sold weapons to Germany if Royal Navies didn't have the place blockaded..."<br /><br />I love fiction, please share some more.<br /><br />"As for defending the democracies of Poland, Denmark..."<br /><br />Ah good ole straw man.<br /><br />Anon,<br /><br />The tired old imperialistic, capitalist American pig... yawn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com