tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post8113455661984561491..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18165484534259664702009-12-27T23:58:54.232-05:002009-12-27T23:58:54.232-05:00Great posting...I this this blog...
BathmateGreat posting...I this this blog...<br /><br /><br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">Bathmate</a>bathmatehttp://www.bathmateus.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24708930153913789442007-12-18T10:16:00.000-05:002007-12-18T10:16:00.000-05:00Papertiger said:"fluff the numbers and make them i...Papertiger said:<BR/>"fluff the numbers and make them impossible to compare to any real life experience."<BR/><BR/>I'd dare say that most people can probably picture a large US city like DC covered to a depth of 1/2 mile by water (almost 5 Washington Monuments deep).<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, "acre-feet" would draw a blank for all but those who deal with water measurement for a living.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-29773852610541707322007-12-18T04:22:00.000-05:002007-12-18T04:22:00.000-05:00>it's an amount of water that could cover Washingt...><I>it's an amount of water that could cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep</I><BR/><BR/>How much is that in walrus tusks?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-89480327140082350392007-12-18T04:20:00.000-05:002007-12-18T04:20:00.000-05:00>Half a mile deep? >That'd be 34 and one eighth cu...>Half a mile deep? <BR/>>That'd be 34 and one eighth cubic >miles of water.<BR/><BR/>Or about three months outflow of the Mississippi River.<BR/><BR/>It's always easy to spot the alarmist arguments. They use obscure weights and measures such as <I>552 billion tons of ice melt</I> ( is that anything like water? So how much is that in gallons?), or <I>it's an amount of water that could cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep</I>(how much in acre feet? You know, the standard measurement of water used by every agency to measure volume of lakes and rivers),<BR/>to fluff the numbers and make them impossible to compare to any real life experience. <BR/><BR/>You're quoting number fluffers. But what else could I expect from a rabit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77312381448814679472007-12-15T00:48:00.000-05:002007-12-15T00:48:00.000-05:00> District of Columbia Area> 68.25 square miles> "...> District of Columbia Area<BR/>> 68.25 square miles<BR/><BR/>> "an amount of water that could <BR/>> cover Washington, D.C., a <BR/>> half-mile deep"<BR/><BR/>Half a mile deep? <BR/>That'd be 34 and one eighth cubic miles of water.Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-46843842011046628442007-12-14T13:37:00.000-05:002007-12-14T13:37:00.000-05:00Yes, of course, we all know magma under a small pa...Yes, of course, we all know magma under a small part of Greenland is causing the entire globe to warm, leading to the melting of the polar ice pack, the warming of the troposhere, cooling of the stratosphere, the rising level of the tropopause, etc.<BR/><BR/>Every new piece of data and yet unproven hypothesis regarding that data represents a challenge to current thinking. That's how science works.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, not every new hypothesis is eventually born out, nor does every new hypothesis that is born out overturn accepted theory (very few do, in fact). More often represents a minor adjustment.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, the latter not so subtle point is all too often missed by the FOX-News-watching (and broadcasting) crowd.<BR/><BR/>--TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38322919897965191082007-12-14T12:31:00.000-05:002007-12-14T12:31:00.000-05:00Some deniers are pointing to thishttp://www.msnbc....Some deniers are pointing to this<BR/><BR/>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22246005/<BR/><BR/>as proof AGW is a hoax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-14986537580378260032007-12-14T11:48:00.000-05:002007-12-14T11:48:00.000-05:00Ultimately it is a judgement call. I've seen onli...Ultimately it is a judgement call. I've seen online discussions where people looked originally like they were denialist trolls, but after a few posts it became clear they were merely brainwashed or misinformed.guthriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17992984293423290387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17495099613126582382007-12-14T10:08:00.000-05:002007-12-14T10:08:00.000-05:00Useful education, contention against wilful ignora...Useful education, contention against wilful ignorance, or time wasted giving public attention to those who get it nowhere but here -- how do we decide?Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-42267403983765489512007-12-13T23:05:00.000-05:002007-12-13T23:05:00.000-05:00HANice poem. Keep up the good work.Best,D<B>HA</B><BR/><BR/>Nice poem. Keep up the good work.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-33273810253431185442007-12-13T22:18:00.000-05:002007-12-13T22:18:00.000-05:00Reading this thread, should we add another class t...Reading this thread, should we add another class to the skeptics and denialists?<BR/><BR/>Donothingists?<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86514385265885390782007-12-13T14:38:00.000-05:002007-12-13T14:38:00.000-05:00The Global Warming Debate<A HREF="http://halgeranon.blogspot.com/2007/12/global-warming-debate.html" REL="nofollow">The Global Warming Debate</A>Horatio Algeranonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12988805467080448954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9382837206591212022007-12-13T14:28:00.000-05:002007-12-13T14:28:00.000-05:00The statement misleads rather then informs anony.T...The statement misleads rather then informs anony.<BR/><BR/>That you have a low opinion of the general public and an esteemed opinion of youself is a matter that your therapist may be able to help you with.<BR/><BR/>No indication is given of the size of the Greenland ice sheet, nor of what percentage melted this year <BR/>(1/10th. 1%?). And what is the margin of error?<BR/><BR/>Even Unversity of Texas's Jianli Chen says the GRACE data has not been available long enough to state whether global warming or natural variability accounts for the increased melting. <BR/><BR/>And glaciologist Jay Zwally, with the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, says his analysis of GRACE data indicates melting at less then half the rate Chen reports.<BR/><BR/>- Paul SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81606191130475838262007-12-13T09:27:00.000-05:002007-12-13T09:27:00.000-05:00cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep."Paul S s...cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep."<BR/><BR/>Paul S said:<BR/>"Statements like that are not informative, and I would argue, designed to mislead the general public."<BR/><BR/>Such statements are far more informative to the public than statements of cubic km or billions of tons of ice -- since most of the public is clueless when it comes to doing conversions.<BR/><BR/>What would you rather they said Paul? <BR/><BR/>"Don't worry, the Hockey stick's broken and besides, the surface stations are "contaminated" with BBQ's... but I do have some great post cards of Marysville, CA just in time for Christmas (for a small fee)".<BR/><BR/>"How seriously should one take this report on the Greenland ice sheet?"<BR/><BR/>More seriously than any of the stuff you post, that's for sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18656749419509033202007-12-13T08:46:00.000-05:002007-12-13T08:46:00.000-05:00But Dano, at least we are all having a laugh, and ...But Dano, at least we are all having a laugh, and come the flood, and old Noah is looking for a someone to clean the lower reaches of the ark, is he going to take an tired old prune like you or a joke a minute like me. <BR/><BR/>Even your choice of best is looking jaded, old son. Poor tired Dano. Sloshy water all around and he forgets his floaties<BR/><BR/>JohnSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-61120837978293508522007-12-13T08:31:00.000-05:002007-12-13T08:31:00.000-05:00Come now Rabett, we do nothings are cacking oursel...<I>Come now Rabett, we do nothings are cacking ourselves silly when the faithwarmer tell us about their dreams. </I><BR/><BR/>Yes.<BR/><BR/>Fortunately these po' folk aren't numerous enough to make a difference, in addition to their not having access to decision-makers.<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3110363587559478422007-12-13T08:09:00.000-05:002007-12-13T08:09:00.000-05:00Grim times Rabett, grim times. Tippling points, la...Grim times Rabett, grim times. Tippling points, lack of ice for drinkies, James Bond drinking straight martinis as no ice to be shaken with, ah the end of the world as we know it.<BR/><BR/>But then you woke up, it was snowing outsde the bedroom window, and Rabett just knew Bond was safe for a little time more.<BR/><BR/>Come now Rabett, we do nothings are cacking ourselves silly when the faithwarmer tell us about their dreams.<BR/>JohnSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11504535525454596822007-12-13T04:28:00.000-05:002007-12-13T04:28:00.000-05:00"Except maybe the expanding universe"That reminds ..."Except maybe the expanding universe"<BR/><BR/>That reminds me, I find myself singing Monty Python's Galaxy Song more often these days.skankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584908320777937193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-82271980183017417532007-12-12T23:35:00.000-05:002007-12-12T23:35:00.000-05:00Forget my question above. I do, however, dislike w...Forget my question above. I do, however, dislike when scientists use phrases like <B>" . . . cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep."</B><BR/><BR/>Statements like that are not informative, and I would argue, designed to mislead the general public.<BR/><BR/>How many cubic kms of ice is the Greenland ice sheet? 2,400,000 cubic kms? 2,600,000 cubic kms? 2,800,000 cubic kms?<BR/><BR/>And what is the margin of error on that estimate? <BR/><BR/>Last year, while analogies of dubious value were also used to describe the Greenland ice melt, the figure of 240 cubic kms of ice melt appeared to be the official figure.<BR/><BR/>Even if the ice melt increased this year, that is a tiny, tiny percentage of the Greenland ice sheet. And is possibly lost in the margin of error anyways. <BR/><BR/>How seriously should one take this report on the Greenland ice sheet?<BR/><BR/>- Paul SAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77323499528931392672007-12-12T23:09:00.000-05:002007-12-12T23:09:00.000-05:00"It's an amount of water that could cover Washingt...<B>"It's an amount of water that could cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep."</B><BR/><BR/>Does anyone know what percentage of the total Greenland ice sheet has melted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-2322233488635831942007-12-12T22:40:00.000-05:002007-12-12T22:40:00.000-05:00Dano, It's called "Greenland Warming" -- ie, isola...Dano, <BR/><BR/>It's called "Greenland Warming" -- ie, isolated to Greenland. <BR/><BR/>Something about the way the cosmic rays bounce off Greenland like little super balls, which results in fewer clouds and lower algoredo and hence warming.<BR/><BR/>I read about it in Energy & Environment (so it must be true)<BR/><BR/>Greenland was once green you know (why do you think they call it Greenland?) so there's absolutely nothing to worry about...<BR/><BR/>Except maybe the expanding universe which might cause some problems down the road.<BR/><BR/>But we'll just have to keep an eye on it...<BR/><BR/>--TAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-29740987095946748472007-12-12T21:31:00.000-05:002007-12-12T21:31:00.000-05:00Butbutbut the Hockey Stick has been thoroughly dis...Butbutbut the Hockey Stick has been thoroughly discredited! Alarmists! Chicken Littles! brawwwk brawwwk!<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/><BR/>DDanohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03709762632849004871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-54979781591693392792007-12-12T18:03:00.000-05:002007-12-12T18:03:00.000-05:00"an amount of water that could cover Washington, D..."an amount of water that could cover Washington, D.C., a half-mile deep"<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, crap floats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-78547551304028688112007-12-12T17:59:00.000-05:002007-12-12T17:59:00.000-05:00Seen the latest anomaly figures (comment on my blo...Seen the latest anomaly figures (comment on my blog)? I am sure Joe is too nice a fellow to be actually chuckling...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16986271841074352598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38439619937007977592007-12-12T15:32:00.000-05:002007-12-12T15:32:00.000-05:00Combining the shrinking area covered by sea ice wi...<EM>Combining the shrinking area covered by sea ice with the new thinness of the remaining ice, scientists calculate that the overall volume of ice is half of 2004's total.</EM><BR/><BR/>(Expletive deleted).<BR/><BR/>The handbasket has been upgraded to a luxury coach, and the road to hell is an autobahn: no speed limit.Garethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01344889228458095563noreply@blogger.com