tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post7730896787913016326..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: @EthonRaptorEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23109698680020352672013-02-22T10:44:47.617-05:002013-02-22T10:44:47.617-05:00Albatross' selection would still be interestin...Albatross' selection would still be interesting. He's an important scholar on Honest Brokering.<br /><br />Speaking of which, here's my (pending clean-up) selection:<br /><br />http://neverendingaudit.tumblr.com/tagged/HonestlyBrokering<br /><br />My favorite is NG's 20-words redux:<br /><br />Economist: A will not work, therefore we must do B<br /><br />Broker: B will never happen, therefore we must do A<br /><br />Further argument fits the definition of “talking past each other”:<br /><br />Economist: But B will work<br /><br />Broker: But A is possible<br /><br />http://neverendingaudit.tumblr.com/post/19687951508<br /><br />(Sorry for the double post, Eli. You can remove my other comments. I'll check if I can do it myself.)willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-33418747419431792072013-02-21T22:45:24.519-05:002013-02-21T22:45:24.519-05:00Sorry, "misled" not "mislead"....Sorry, "misled" not "mislead". <br /><br />So misleading to have written that.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-59659376745079088702013-02-21T22:42:15.072-05:002013-02-21T22:42:15.072-05:00Re Eli's request for Roger's nasty comment...Re Eli's request for Roger's nasty comments, Eli may remember when good ol' Roger accused me in the NYTimes blog comments of using "misleading semantic arguments to attack people whose views they would rather not engage with directly....using that semantic twisting to spread lies about me here at the NYT." Andy Revkin gave it a highlight.<br /><br />In Feb '09, Roger mislead people on James Hansen's position on carbon capture and I called him out on it in the same month, and again at Revkin in 2010. Roger called my statements misleading, mis-stated what I had said, and then mislead readers by giving a link to a different paper where he uses a different definition, written after I had made my critique.<br /><br /><a href="http://backseatdriving.blogspot.com/2010/02/fun-and-games-with-roger-pielke-jr-at.html" rel="nofollow">Follow the bouncing ball if you like.</a>Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-21810666759134065842013-02-21T19:28:28.629-05:002013-02-21T19:28:28.629-05:00Here's a dump of thingsbreak, mere whining omi...Here's a dump of thingsbreak, mere whining omitted:<br /><br />https://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/roger-pielke-jr-just-cant-help-himself/<br /><br />https://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/to-answer-coby/<br /><br />https://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/industry-group-1995-internal-memo-said-climate-effects-from-ghgs-cannot-be-denied-while-group-continued-to-do-just-that/<br /><br />https://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/honest-broker-at-prometheus-attacks-hansen-over-claim-he-never-makes/<br /><br />https://thingsbreak.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/honest-broker-bemoans-lack-of-common-decency/<br /><br />badger badger badgerhttp://badgerbadgerbadger.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52262843554983674062013-02-21T18:17:52.861-05:002013-02-21T18:17:52.861-05:00Pal review happens.Pal review <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/skeptics-prefer-pal-review-over-peer-review-chris-de-freitas-pat-michaels-and-their-pals-1997-2003" rel="nofollow">happens.</a>John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41501067548960440512013-02-21T18:01:09.059-05:002013-02-21T18:01:09.059-05:00https://www.google.com/search?q="pielke+jr.&q...https://www.google.com/search?q="pielke+jr."+"most+misunderstood" -- there's something funny about how misunderstandings are distributed. Aren't there any mildly or slightly misunderstood issues around climate?Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-29804880249383257112013-02-21T17:11:13.151-05:002013-02-21T17:11:13.151-05:00Anon@9:21 doesn't really understand how peer-r...Anon@9:21 doesn't really understand how peer-revew or science for that matter works. Peer review is not simply a barrier to keep crappy papers out. If it works well, it should also improve the papers. And that is precisely what any decent author should want. <br /><br />Of course, the ultimate test is whether one's peers see that the work adds value and understanding they would otherwise lack--that is the real test. In contrast, the denialist papers lie there like a dog turd on a hot New York sidewalk--because their goal is to obscure rather than illuminate.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85360825543073868282013-02-21T16:13:10.943-05:002013-02-21T16:13:10.943-05:00Examples please, pretty please with some sugar on ...Examples please, pretty please with some sugar on it.willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11476517095833546812013-02-21T16:02:44.084-05:002013-02-21T16:02:44.084-05:00Anonymous at 9:52,
Do you deny pal review in clim...Anonymous at 9:52,<br /><br />Do you deny pal review in climate science. Do we have to bring out all the emails again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77465311260510383682013-02-21T12:52:23.253-05:002013-02-21T12:52:23.253-05:00A 9:21 is that you Roger? Oh well, whoever it is ...A 9:21 is that you Roger? Oh well, whoever it is they are just propagating another conspiracy and myth that is forever firmly entrenched in the minds of those in denial.<br /><br />I suspect that Roger's open defamation of his colleagues is finally catching up with him. Roger now seems to also be openly entering conspiracy theories-- such is the life of someone in denial.<br /><br />Another distinct possibility is that perhaps the journal grew tired of Roger's duplicity and/or displaying bias in what he accepted or denied for publication.<br /><br />I would suggest that Roger, instead of assuming malfeasance or wrong doing on the part of others, that he take a long and hard look in the mirror and reflect on his inane (and his dad's) behaviour over the years. In Roger's land it seems that only he can do no wrong or not err, nothing would be further from the truth. <br /><br />Many examples can be brought forth if Roger or someone else requests.<br /><br />AlbatrossAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86146693067555433852013-02-21T12:21:00.707-05:002013-02-21T12:21:00.707-05:00Eli, I suspect that GEC wants to shift into "...Eli, I suspect that GEC wants to shift into "High Pal, Not Peer" review mode. I guess climategate was not a good teacher after all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-24387350450615132952013-02-21T08:18:30.958-05:002013-02-21T08:18:30.958-05:00"Pielke Proof"
-- by Horatio Algeranon
..."Pielke Proof"<br />-- by Horatio Algeranon<br /><br />Pielke Proof<br />Is like a spoof,<br />A parody<br />Of basic truth.<br /><br />To play the game,<br />For blogger fame<br />One simply kNOTs<br />A noted claim.<br /><br /><br />The "kNOT" operation (part of "Foolean logic") is "NOT with a twist", which involves first taking the opposite and then tying it (and oneself) up in knots with cockeyed arguments in order to make the denial more "palinable" (palatable to the Sarah Palin crowd)<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55042402149300593762013-02-21T06:38:21.325-05:002013-02-21T06:38:21.325-05:00I can't imagine members of APS journal editori...I can't imagine members of APS journal editorial boards habitually declining to do their work. Different journals operate differently I suppose, But Ed. Board should be much more an obligation than just being a referee.Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06249922708053689717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52389062860311442962013-02-21T03:28:16.888-05:002013-02-21T03:28:16.888-05:00Eli, do you forget to your peril that all misinter...Eli, do you forget to your peril that all misinterpretations of Pielkes are to be undertaken only by Pielkes since only a Pielke can truly grasp the misstatements of a Pielke? IOW, in terms Ethon can understand, when at last the big bird takes the big bite he may find that the liver of a Pielke is composed of gall and little else.<br /><br />PS - Don't forget to note how long it takes RP Jr. to block you, if he hasn't already.<br />Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.com