tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post719770569139213700..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Flim Flam Fred Crawls Out of RetirementEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-49674989745446282982018-05-22T15:46:39.004-04:002018-05-22T15:46:39.004-04:00When will Senator Brooks realize that reason and ...When will Senator Brooks realize that reason and logic dictate that water displaced by stones falling into the ocean will be pushed over the edge of the Earth without impacting sea level ?THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-79431577338826636102018-05-21T09:06:08.321-04:002018-05-21T09:06:08.321-04:00Notice how these guys work their game. When I fir...Notice how these guys work their game. When I first looked at Singer's WSJ commentary, it was not paywalled, but when I later went back to read it, it was. Yet, other sites re-posted the piece word-for-word, even though it's copyrighted:<br /><br />http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/05/16/climate-scientist-dr-fred-singer-the-sea-is-rising-but-not-because-of-climate-change/<br /><br />Google says there are almost 6,500 hits on the [title + singer]. These guys aren't interested in scientific truth (or the Rule of Law, for that matter).E. Swansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16458400506150142847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58257463416854823362018-05-18T21:11:41.799-04:002018-05-18T21:11:41.799-04:00Yeah, well then it's time to start linking to ...Yeah, well then it's time to start linking to <br /><br />https://climatefeedback.org/evaluation/wall-street-journal-commentary-grossly-misleads-readers-about-science-of-sea-level-rise-fred-singer/<br /><br />as well as, of course,<br /><br />http://rabett.blogspot.com/2018/05/flim-flam-fred-crawls-out-of-retirement.html<br /><br />all over the net!!EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-14878716548901940532018-05-18T14:16:41.403-04:002018-05-18T14:16:41.403-04:00A search of google for ["The Sea Is Rising, b...A search of google for ["The Sea Is Rising, but Not Because of Climate Change" singer], produced 4,840 hits. Replacing "singer" with "wall street journal" returned 9,550 hits. Sad to say, it's an election year in the US and the flood of politically motivated disinformation is just beginning.E. Swansonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16458400506150142847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-27008629348555333842018-05-18T09:11:26.979-04:002018-05-18T09:11:26.979-04:00I wonder if Singer agrees with Herr Professor Dokt...I wonder if Singer agrees with Herr Professor Doktor Senator Mo Brooks that sea-level rise is caused by stones falling into the oceans?Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07891989201161664914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85069906686309681582018-05-18T07:18:49.767-04:002018-05-18T07:18:49.767-04:00jon,
(outside the 0-4 celsius well-known exception...jon,<br /><i>(outside the 0-4 celsius well-known exception)</i><br /><br />Actually, I think this isn't true for sea water. Given the salinity, sea water will expand for all temperatures above freezing. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3932196408748151422018-05-18T06:03:58.757-04:002018-05-18T06:03:58.757-04:00Plus the fact that no person calling himself a phy...Plus the fact that no person calling himself a physicist can seriously defend that there is no expansion if temperature increases (outside the 0-4 celsius well-known exception). Trying to discuss this is just embarrassing for himself.jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17846136631967997238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-51403252801060020162018-05-17T11:19:34.638-04:002018-05-17T11:19:34.638-04:00Fred Singer writing gibberish about climate change...Fred Singer writing gibberish about climate change in the Wall Street Journal? What is this, 1990?<br /><br />Between Singer and Rupert Murdoch, the world could use a couple fewer selfish old men. These two would gleefully burn down the world to warm their dying bones.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52690098328356764612018-05-17T07:50:03.079-04:002018-05-17T07:50:03.079-04:00I obtained Church and White’s time series for glob...I obtained Church and White’s time series for global mean sea level (GMSL) from 1880 to 2013 (N = 134). I regressed it on CO2 for the same period. R^2 was 92.1% and p was < 9.37 x 10^-75.Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48142124242510088342018-05-17T06:18:32.693-04:002018-05-17T06:18:32.693-04:00The damage has been done though via the WSJ. What...The damage has been done though via the WSJ. What is really weird though is that their is no new here, It is not newsworthy or opinion worthy as there is no new here, it is like that op-ed comes from 1990.<br /><br />I hope the WSJ or some other MSM outlet tries to correct Fred's 'so called' 1990 paper era and ~1910-45 data era misconceptions.<br /><br />Mother Jones has a reply but this 30 year old op-ed 'so called' news , but this needs a higher profile response IMHO ...<br />https://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2018/05/wall-street-journal-relax-climate-change-is-no-big-deal/<br /><br />Are there any other responses in the MSM to Fred's nonsense? I would hope so.<br /><br /><br />I don't even have much faith in the GMST much before ~1950 given the apparent lack of marine data for the SH oceans (either that or my lack of understanding the data error bars for those times). I also don't truly appreciate the GMST 'so called' middle finger from ~1939-1945.Everett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81294262336288486572018-05-17T03:25:39.707-04:002018-05-17T03:25:39.707-04:00Thanks, Eli. That's a great summary. (The year...Thanks, Eli. That's a great summary. (The years have not been kind to Fred, but not as unkind to him as he is to everyone else.)<br /><br />BTW = There's also this new discussion paper:<br /><br />Global Sea Level Budget 1993–Present<br />WCRP Global Sea Level Budget Group<br />LEGOS, 18 Avenue Edouard Belin, 31401 Toulouse, Cedex 9, France<br /><br />...The results presented in this paper are a synthesis of the first assessment performed during 2017–2018. We present estimates of the altimetry-based global mean sea level (average rate of 3.1 ± 0.3 mm/yr and acceleration of 0.1 mm/yr2 over 1993–present), as well as of the different components of the sea level budget (doi:10.17882/54854). We further examine closure of the sea level budget, comparing the observed global mean sea level with the sum of components. Ocean thermal expansion, glaciers, Greenland and Antarctica contribute by 42 %, 21 %, 15 % and 8 % to the global mean sea level over the 1993–present. We also study the sea level budget over 2005–present, using GRACE-based ocean mass estimates instead of sum of individual mass components. Results show closure of the sea level budget within 0.3 mm/yr. Substantial uncertainty remains for the land water storage component, as shown in examining individual mass contributions to sea level....<br /><br />https://www.earth-syst-sci-data-discuss.net/essd-2018-53/<br /><br />It also has some recent references.Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.com