tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post709054515809147731..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Cue The Heavy BreathingEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76263247027059640402014-02-02T18:25:08.396-05:002014-02-02T18:25:08.396-05:00Following on from my comment on 22 January, here&#...Following on from my <a href="http://rabett.blogspot.com/2014/01/cue-heavy-breathing.html?showComment=1390397371133#c3393034847464635904" rel="nofollow">comment on 22 January</a>, here's the link for the <a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/tasmania/2014/01/professor-chris-turney-back-on-solid-ground.html" rel="nofollow">Turney interview</a>.Bernard J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43025989604395488322014-01-24T09:16:09.897-05:002014-01-24T09:16:09.897-05:00EliRabett said...
"Eli believes that the tec...EliRabett said...<br /><br />"Eli believes that the technical term for what our friend is doing here is called fly specking."<br /><br />You think? Thank you for finally responding.<br /><br />All I ever asked was for you to update your blog with some correct information. I do understand that you were misled by others into posting what you did. I commiserate.<br /><br />I do think that you failed dismally in checking the 'facts' you used however. Was it because they said what you wanted to hear? Was it that you were too busy doing other, much more important, things? I don't know.<br /><br />So will you please just add an addendum to the head post so that you withdraw or modify the incorrect bits of your report?<br /><br />Now you know what the true facts were?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15616524752031438042014-01-24T08:27:57.391-05:002014-01-24T08:27:57.391-05:00The blog Eli pointed to is one of the denialing ty...The blog Eli pointed to is one of the denialing type, and the news report that it pointed to was a serious news operation and the quote from Fleming, one of the guys who moaned most loudly about the AS "delaying" important stuff, was from the Aussie Antarctic Division press release site, and the delay was about three weeks from the scheduled date of arrival.<br /><br />Eli believes that the technical term for what our friend is doing here is called fly specking. There are more important things in the world such as coffee and toast.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17815502994819094742014-01-24T04:19:56.795-05:002014-01-24T04:19:56.795-05:00Kevin O'Neill said...
"anon says "w...Kevin O'Neill said...<br /><br />"anon says "was only ever published here as far as I can tell. Got other urls that also published it?"<br /><br />Eli never provided a URL? That is factually incorrect. I thought truth was part of your motto?<br /><br />Did you even bother to read what Eli wrote? The very first link in the post this comment thread belongs to:Aurora Australis"<br /><br />I do apologise. I did miss the reference url. <br /><br />Turns out he is just guilty of the sin of failing to verify the accuracy of a report before repeating it, very loudly and rudely.<br /><br />Like checking the onboard sitreps to confirm the facts first for instance.<br /><br />If anyone had bothered to do that, either Eli, Paul Homewood, Nine News or any of the rest of you, you would notice the discrepancies.<br /><br />They were, and are, so obvious only a blind (or blinkered) man won't see them.<br /><br />Still don't let the facts (such as those I have reported) get in the way of a good, incorrect, story.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-82574707728008814142014-01-24T02:04:00.457-05:002014-01-24T02:04:00.457-05:00anon says "was only ever published here as fa...anon says "was only ever published here as far as I can tell. Got other urls that also published it?"<br /><br />Eli never provided a URL? That is factually incorrect. I thought truth was part of your motto?<br /><br />Did you even bother to read what Eli wrote? The very first link in the post this comment thread belongs to:<a href="http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/12/12/australian-icebreaker-returns-after-being-stuck-in-pack-ice-for-three-weeks/" rel="nofollow">Aurora Australis</a><br /><br />What you claim are Eli's words are a quote from that webpage. It in turn was linked to a news article. My god you're an idiot.<br /><br />I gave you GCs quote and you believe it accurate? There's a real lonney tune hiding behind that pseudonymn.<br /><br />There's enough egg on your face to feed an army.<br />Kevin O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692943768484857724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9957219753295760552014-01-23T23:06:33.407-05:002014-01-23T23:06:33.407-05:00I am extracting entertainment value, from you, for...I am extracting entertainment value, from you, for myself, at your expense. Keep up the good work!Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-63520510334103454652014-01-23T20:04:37.197-05:002014-01-23T20:04:37.197-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
Nothing of value as u...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />Nothing of value as usual.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-13237527039872074672014-01-23T19:00:51.466-05:002014-01-23T19:00:51.466-05:00Given the level of 'ad homs' that occur he...<i>Given the level of 'ad homs' that occur here do you wonder why people opt to stay anon?</i><br /><br />I don't 'wonder' about you. I reserve wonder for discernible reality. I quantify that wonder with 'questions'. Given the (lack of) substance in your comments, it's already obvious to me why you remain anonymous. No questions are required. You are a complainer as well. More precisely, a whiner.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58786936517523305532014-01-23T18:19:23.381-05:002014-01-23T18:19:23.381-05:00Kevin O'Neill said...
"anon - If you are...Kevin O'Neill said...<br /><br />"anon - If you are impartial, then why did you not correct any of GC's ludicrous statements? Fail."<br /><br />I thought his points were correct. Please let me know where he was wrong and I'll seek some corrections.<br /><br /><br />"Was the AA trapped for 12 (15) days?<br /><br />Does this not prove Eli's point?<br /><br />minutiae - was Eli's statement (though incorrect) supported by multiple sources?"<br /><br />"three weeks from November 12 to December 3"<br /><br />was only ever published here as far as I can tell. Got other urls that also published it?<br /><br />"Have you asked any of those sources to print corrections?"<br /><br />Eli never provided links to his sources so how could I?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11667785464603374162014-01-23T18:15:19.011-05:002014-01-23T18:15:19.011-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
Show anything I have e...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br />Show anything I have ever said here that was anything other than truthful.<br /><br />"I've already snarked enough of your crankiness here already, and your innumerate anonymity does not allow me to definitely distinguish your crankiness from all of the other anonymous cranks that post here, lol."<br /><br />Given the level of 'ad homs' that occur here do you wonder why people opt to stay anon?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69594728027929702682014-01-23T17:36:43.696-05:002014-01-23T17:36:43.696-05:00anon - If you are impartial, then why did you not ...anon - If you are impartial, then why did you not correct any of GC's ludicrous statements? Fail.<br /><br />Was the AA trapped for 12 (15) days?<br /><br />Does this not prove Eli's point?<br /><br />minutiae - was Eli's statement (though incorrect) supported by multiple sources?<br /><br />Have you asked any of those sources to print corrections?Kevin O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692943768484857724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-90249777398488659392014-01-23T17:36:27.585-05:002014-01-23T17:36:27.585-05:00Show anything I have ever said here that was anyth...<i>Show anything I have ever said here that was anything other than truthful.</i><br /><br />I've already snarked enough of your crankiness here already, and your innumerate anonymity does not allow me to definitely distinguish your crankiness from all of the other anonymous cranks that post here, lol.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38101791344533353422014-01-23T17:22:19.548-05:002014-01-23T17:22:19.548-05:00Kevin O'Neill said...
"Eli's point w...Kevin O'Neill said...<br /><br />"Eli's point was that ships get stuck in the arctic."<br /><br />For an incorrect time and date.<br /><br /><br />"Have you investigated whether they were negligent?"<br /><br />No they had and used their contingency time budget they had allowed for as part of the season.<br /><br />"Why not? Why weren't any of the usual suspects screaming bloody murder then?"<br /><br />Because there was no reason to do so?<br /><br />"The answer is obvious."<br /><br />Your bias is showing.<br /><br />"Or do you only correct wild claims from one side?"<br /><br />No I try to remain impartial. You, rather obviously, do not.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58659779781863519672014-01-23T17:16:58.292-05:002014-01-23T17:16:58.292-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
"Because apparen...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />"Because apparently you can't manage it on your own, lol."<br /><br />Show anything I have ever said here that was anything other than truthful.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-64258237803517349502014-01-23T17:02:13.246-05:002014-01-23T17:02:13.246-05:00anon - Truth and clarity?
Eli's point was tha...anon - Truth and clarity?<br /><br />Eli's point was that ships get stuck in the arctic. And, in fact, the very icebreaker that helped to free the KK was itself stuck for three weeks just one month previously.<br /><br />Now, who is calling the for the planning heads of the Aurora Australis when it was three weeks delayed? Anyone? You? Have you investigated whether they were negligent? Why not? Why weren't any of the usual suspects screaming bloody murder then?<br /><br />The answer is obvious. Your attempt to deflect attention away from the point that this is just another attack on a climate scientist is plain to see. Trapped for three weeks or delayed for three weeks is a distinction without a difference *and* it was reported that way by several different sources. Have you asked any of those original sources to print corrections?<br /><br />And when GC said: "You Eli have very little to establish your claim of shipwrecks in Antarctica being “endemic”. Indeed, not one single research vessel was listed above."<br /><br />Did you point out that Eli never mentioned shipwrecks and that he never said only research vessels get caught in Antarctica? But why not - you're only interested in truth and facts? Or do you only correct wild claims from one side?<br /><br />Yes, truth and clarity are surely your motto /snarkKevin O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06692943768484857724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76862216615057825642014-01-23T15:30:28.297-05:002014-01-23T15:30:28.297-05:00Asking for truth and clarity is all I have ever do...<i>Asking for truth and clarity is all I have ever done.</i><br /><br />Because apparently you can't manage it on your own, lol.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-53323710954396288812014-01-23T15:09:05.546-05:002014-01-23T15:09:05.546-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
Ad Hom attacks usuall...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />Ad Hom attacks usually identify the writer as a fool rather than the target.<br /><br />No change there then.<br /><br />Asking for truth and clarity is all I have ever done.<br /><br />Insults and rudeness is all I have encountered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38312225249388714052014-01-23T15:03:51.227-05:002014-01-23T15:03:51.227-05:00then it would appear that you cannot take what he ...<i>then it would appear that you cannot take what he says to be truthful or validated</i><br /><br />No, I can take it any way I want. I think you are confusing me for you, because you speak only for yourself. It's amusing how paid shills always confuse identity and always think they can speak for anyone and everyone else but themselves. That is the hallmark of a shill - projection.<br /><br />You need to go back to shilling for Jesus and billionaires. It's more profitable. Here among the informed, literate and numerate you only expose yourself as illiterate, innumerate and uninformed, shilling for the man.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-21156765974346075702014-01-23T14:19:00.522-05:002014-01-23T14:19:00.522-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
"Dude, this is s...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />"Dude, this is some other guy's blog discussing a subject that is old, and utterly insignificant to me."<br /><br />If you mean the Rabbit then it would appear that you cannot take what he says to be truthful or validated. I am unsure as to if that extends to everything he says as I usually give people the benefit of the doubt.<br /><br />Strange how it is so insignificant that you keep on coming back to say so.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-56526578637078777192014-01-23T13:30:42.400-05:002014-01-23T13:30:42.400-05:00Dude, this is some other guy's blog discussing...Dude, this is some other guy's blog discussing a subject that is old, and utterly insignificant to me.<br /><br />Read : Entertainment and Sport. The fact that you are anonymous makes it even less relevant to real science.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-67223910681881061612014-01-23T13:12:22.255-05:002014-01-23T13:12:22.255-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
"I only concern ...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />"I only concern myself with real and significant global, scientific, technological and engineering problems, and then I work on them and solve them and stuff, in lieu of shilling anonymously and obsessively on some insignificant past problems."<br /><br />Like ignoring false claims and inaccurate quotes from others.<br /><br />Providing false information and random guesses yourself as well.<br /><br />Real, careful, accurate and studious work you show in all your posts above.<br /><br />Now do calm down dear or you'll spray stuff all over your monitor.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-65188695917121404382014-01-23T12:52:38.640-05:002014-01-23T12:52:38.640-05:00I only concern myself with real and significant gl...I only concern myself with real and significant global, scientific, technological and engineering problems, and then I work on them and solve them and stuff, in lieu of shilling anonymously and obsessively on some insignificant past problems.Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-80188856765285067462014-01-23T12:19:46.481-05:002014-01-23T12:19:46.481-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
"Failing because...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />"Failing because NOBODY FUCKING CARES except the people who have to pay the bill. That's not you"<br /><br />Nice to only have to worry about your own cosy part of the globe isn't it. Talk about small minded.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-68464161260294876582014-01-23T12:16:34.698-05:002014-01-23T12:16:34.698-05:00Failing because NOBODY FUCKING CARES except the pe...Failing because NOBODY FUCKING CARES except the people who have to pay the bill. That's not you. You do have a bill to pay and it's considerably more that a couple of million, but that seems to concern a set of problems you'd rather not address, thus your obsession with the trivial. Faux News for you!Thomas Lee Elifritzhttp://cosmic.lifeform.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-45449256617231455492014-01-23T12:13:33.365-05:002014-01-23T12:13:33.365-05:00Thomas Lee Elifritz said...
"No, that's ...Thomas Lee Elifritz said...<br /><br />"No, that's an anonymous commenter typing my full name over and over as if he thinks it will change anything."<br /><br />Trying and failing to correct your many errors, assumptions and ignorance.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com