tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post6433219574749861479..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Analysis: Soon's disclosure of non-controversial funding supports the conclusion that he deliberately omitted fossil fuel disclosuresEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-70153415452297945282015-03-14T13:30:36.788-04:002015-03-14T13:30:36.788-04:00https://quantpalaeo.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/quest...https://quantpalaeo.wordpress.com/2015/03/14/questions-for-yan-et-al-2015-willie-soons-new-paper/Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81439825198621382452015-03-11T22:31:56.061-04:002015-03-11T22:31:56.061-04:00Willie Soon and Bob Carter have just canoodled the...Willie Soon and Bob Carter have just canoodled their way into Nature Geoscience coauthorship.<br /><br />True to form, semi-coauthors Willie and Bob do not mention financial support :<br />Dynamics of the intertropical convergence zone over the western Pacific during the Little Ice Age<br /><br />Affiliations<br />State Key Laboratory of Loess and Quaternary Geology, Institute of Earth Environment, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Xi’an 710061, China<br />Hong Yan, Zhisheng An, Weijian Zhou & Yuhong Wang<br />Joint Center for Global Change Studies (JCGS), Beijing 100875, China<br />Hong Yan, Zhisheng An & Weijian Zhou<br />The Alfred Wegener Institute, Helmholtz Centre for Polar and Marine Research, Bremerhaven 27570, Germany<br />Wei Wei<br />Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02138, USA<br />Willie Soon<br />Department of Earth Sciences, University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong, China<br />Zhonghui Liu<br />Institute of Public Affairs, Melbourne, Victoria 3000, Australia<br />Robert M. Carter<br />Contributions<br />H.Y. designed the study and wrote the manuscript. W.W. contributed to the section discussing climate model results. W.S. contributed significantly to improvements in the manuscript. Z.A., W.Z. and Z.L. contributed to discussion of the results and manuscript refinement. Y.W. and R.M.C. contributed to improving the English.<br /><br />Competing financial interests<br />The authors declare no competing financial interests.”THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69999585687369541352015-03-08T14:46:49.643-04:002015-03-08T14:46:49.643-04:00Thanks Everett - Soon's pattern of being aroun...Thanks Everett - Soon's pattern of being around others who are disclosing and then not doing it himself is reinforced by those examples. Ever harder to argue that it was an oversight.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48901378191008159052015-03-08T11:28:33.497-04:002015-03-08T11:28:33.497-04:00Brian.
I mentioned this elsewhere, that after Bal...Brian.<br /><br />I mentioned this elsewhere, that after Ballerinas 'left the building' circa 2010. Soon's CoI/disclosure statements sort of vanished (at least on papers without Ballerinas as a coauthor).<br /><br />Now I have not looked at all of Baliunas works, but the ones that I have looked at AFAIK always carried CoI/funding disclosure statements.<br /><br />Of the 11 papers mentioned above Baliunas appears on two, so that the original polar bear paper:<br /><br />http://ruby.fgcu.edu/courses/twimberley/EnviroPhilo/HudsonBay.pdf<br /><br />"All views and conclusions are strictly our own and do not reflect upon any of those acknowledged (especially A. Derocher) or any institutions with whom we are affiliated.<br /><br />M. Dyck and W. Soon initiated this scientific study around 2002–2003 without seeking research fundings and both have contributed equally. W. Soon’s effort for the completion of this paper was partially supported by grants from the Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation, American Petroleum Institute, and Exxon-Mobil Corporation. The views expressed herein are solely of the authors and are independent of sources providing<br />support."<br /><br />So clearly the original study is pretty 'above board' wrt CoI and funding disclosure wrt Soon.<br /><br />Don't have a copy of the "Response to reply paper ..." but as shown above it would appear that disclosures were made at the time of the original paper.<br /><br />As to the 2nd paper with Baliunas name on it:<br />http://arxiv.org/pdf/0904.1747v1.pdf<br /><br />Acknowledgements reads in part:<br /><br />"S.B. acknowledges support from JPL 12700064, Smithsonian Institution Restricted Endowment funds and NASA NNX07AI356."<br /><br />Soon's funding is not mentioned, but I would assume similar sources as per Baliunas.<br /><br />So one would actually have to gather up all the Baliunas and Soon papers (coauthored and seperate), form a timeline, categorize CoI's and funding sources, to detece a timeline pattern of CoI and financial disclosures wrt Soon alone, Baliunas alone and Baliunas/Soon together.<br /><br />I do detect such a pattern in my limited searches, Baliunas mostly disclosures, Baliunas/Soon mostly disclosures and Soon fewer (to no) disclosures.Everett F Sargenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00201577558036010680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-14546517561562184942015-03-08T11:28:19.782-04:002015-03-08T11:28:19.782-04:00This is where someone in the Grants Office should ...This is where someone in the Grants Office should have been fired at Smithsonian-Harvard. It is completely unethical to receive grants to do science where the name of the grantor must be kept secret. Mitchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06129167696770820324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-47110664589833137272015-03-08T10:20:29.573-04:002015-03-08T10:20:29.573-04:00The SCS funding was of course not made public. Aft...The SCS funding was of course not made public. After all that was a provision in the aggreement between the Smithsonian and the SCS: <br /><br /><i><b>15. Publicity.</b> Smithsonian shall not publish or utilize the name or otherwise identify SCS or its affiliate companies in any publications or other advertisements without the express written consent of SCS. As further consideration to SCS, Smithsonian shall provide SCS in advance written copy of proposed publications regarding the deliverables for comment and input, if any, from SCS.</i><br /><br />So it's either getting permission to name SCS as a sponsor or not publishing in journals that require acknowledgement of all funding. Fat chance of either solution, and poor Willie was <i>required</i> by contract to publish the deliverables, after all. Some commiseration for somebody caught between a rock and a hard place is in order, gentlemen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-59127678675525813492015-03-08T10:19:22.532-04:002015-03-08T10:19:22.532-04:00Coming Soon to a gate near you.<a href="http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2015/03/coming-soon-to-gate-near-you.html" rel="nofollow">Coming Soon to a gate near you.</a>THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.com