tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post6053168301096998948..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: James should pass the Woodie Guthrie Award on to JoeEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-33807131338861670242012-06-10T12:46:20.017-04:002012-06-10T12:46:20.017-04:00Joe Romm also supported technology transfer for th...Joe Romm also supported technology transfer for the clean-up of the Hanford Nuclear Site (USDOE-RL)on the banks of the Columbia. As a result, the Columbia is less polluted river today.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150805906414546377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48708806169939962622012-06-10T11:22:14.985-04:002012-06-10T11:22:14.985-04:00Joe, Maybe if you were a bit less shrill and a bit...Joe, Maybe if you were a bit less shrill and a bit more nuanced, you might be read by more than 20000 people. <br /><br />Dyson is an interesting case--one which if illuminated properly might provide some insight into the general problem of emeritus physicists. Maybe there's a cure. As a physicist close to emeritus status, I'd certainly want to know.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1311332638630021542012-06-10T10:09:06.219-04:002012-06-10T10:09:06.219-04:00As someone with a physics undergraduate and gradua...As someone with a physics undergraduate and graduate degree from M.I.T. I certainly know what Dyson did a long, long, long time ago. How precisely does that qualify him to make up crap on climate science now? I have also read every single one of his books -- including the pro-Star Wars nonsense ( which I didn't even bother writing about in that post).<br /><br />Since project Orion, it's been clear that Dyson's expertise does not extend beyond theoretical physics. On several practical matters where he has publicly stated an extensive position he was somewhere between dubious and nonsensical.<br /><br />The whole point of that post is that expertise in one area means nothing whatsoever in another area.<br /><br />What's amusing is that folks have an issue with my explaining why Dyson doesn't know what he's talking about on climate science in a post read by maybe 20,000 people, but seem totally cool with Dyson trashing Hansen ( the guy who has been right about climate for 30 years) in a publication read by 1 million people.Joe Rommhttp://climateprogress.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-29157501938469234292012-06-10T07:16:07.088-04:002012-06-10T07:16:07.088-04:00I think Joe is kind of a one-trick pony. He doesn...I think Joe is kind of a one-trick pony. He doesn't know what to do with a denialist that doesn't fit his narrative. <br /><br />In so doing, he utterly misses the cautionary tale Dyson provides--that one can be really, really smart and completely, utterly wrong. <br /><br />Dyson is ultimately a technological utopian. He sees a brilliant future for humans. He's so convinced of this that he thinks any counter indication is a distraction, and so dismisses it with the simplest argument he can muster based on limited understanding having not researched the subject. And he is convinced that even if he is wrong, we'll come up with a technological fix (carbon-gobbling trees, anyonw) for the problem.<br /><br />Dyson is a living, breathing warning sign for scientists (especially physicists) who want to pontificate outside their expertise. Joe utterly misses this.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55956039743132458242012-06-10T05:02:43.727-04:002012-06-10T05:02:43.727-04:00It's pretty hard to have any physics and not k...It's pretty hard to have any physics and not know about Dyson's contributions to QED. OTOH, Romm may have been reacting to Dyson's role with the Jasons, something he may have been aware of from his DOE days.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76808477197360906352012-06-10T01:17:25.638-04:002012-06-10T01:17:25.638-04:00http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/03/25/203866...http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2009/03/25/203866/new-york-times-magazine-profile-global-warming-crackpot-freeman-dyson-slander-james-hansen/<br /><br />I remember reading this post at the time (before he added the "update"). Dyson may have some loopy ideas about climate, but Romm doesn't just focus on these, and goes on to lambaste or diminish what else Dyson worked on. When Romm first wrote the post, I don't think he had a real clue about anything that Dyson had worked on: nothing about him except his probably wrong-headed amuture musings on climate.<br /><br />There is far too little nuance with Romm. He posts without thinking first sometimes.crfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10726414637021391906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-16458395622529617092012-06-09T01:32:12.847-04:002012-06-09T01:32:12.847-04:00Steve got it some time ago...
House of Mockton: P...<i>Steve got it some time ago...</i><br /><br />House of Mockton: Proudly oblivious!dbostromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13885863615343906724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-50927368207528096002012-06-08T22:36:32.378-04:002012-06-08T22:36:32.378-04:00Considering the argument, Eli might be forgetting ...Considering the argument, Eli might be forgetting about some Rabett. <br /><br />Some might be tempted to say that Eli's choice has been caused by a blogspot.<br /><br />Anti-facism makes me think of The Climate Scum.<br /><br />I would tell James to consider Ron Broberg's site, or perhaps the Azimuth project, but I'd have to find back my OpenId login details.willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-313984430576254092012-06-08T17:23:55.086-04:002012-06-08T17:23:55.086-04:00Dear Mockton
Steve got it some time ago:
http://...Dear Mockton<br /><br />Steve got it some time ago:<br /><br />http://scienceofdoom.com/2010/05/19/the-woody-guthrie-award/<br /><br />AnonymickeyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-84935236316028538202012-06-08T16:56:24.270-04:002012-06-08T16:56:24.270-04:00Puzzling choice but then it's a jury of one. S...Puzzling choice but then it's a jury of one. Some pleasingly forthright old-fashioned iconoclasm to be found at Annan's site but in terms of general utility it seems there are better choices. How about Science of Doom, for instance?dbostromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13885863615343906724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77573019124631106242012-06-08T14:49:11.957-04:002012-06-08T14:49:11.957-04:00Ah, yes, Woody's ode to the destruction of the...Ah, yes, Woody's ode to the destruction of the mainstream chinook and the eventual livelihood of a very large number of fishermen and cannery workers downstream from Bonneville. The workingman riots against the building of the dam don't seem to get much notice in the song.<br /><br />Of course, opposition led to the inclusion of fish ladders at Bonneville and Woody and others can be forgiven their inability to grasp how fragile the salmon runs (already depleted by overfishing) were to the mortality of salmon at each of the first 10 dams on the river, culminating in about 1/2 of the Columbia chinook's spawning habitat being cut off by Grand Coulee ...dhogazanoreply@blogger.com