tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post5736474794461774972..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Romney's Kinsley Gaffe, in contextEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83438712952988836932012-02-08T15:45:40.098-05:002012-02-08T15:45:40.098-05:00Brian,
Fair enough.
Celery EaterBrian,<br /><br />Fair enough.<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52156059809173834482012-02-07T23:27:54.686-05:002012-02-07T23:27:54.686-05:00Alright, CE, I don't see any evidence of you b...Alright, CE, I don't see any evidence of you being racist, and I don't recall anything that makes you a liar, but I think others can judge whether you've been arrogant and insulting.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-71754474310540206592012-02-06T15:43:05.876-05:002012-02-06T15:43:05.876-05:00Brian,
Speaking of people exposing their true bel...Brian,<br /><br />Speaking of people exposing their true beliefs.... lol<br /><br />Another exposure of the true liberals.<br /><br />My work here (this post) is complete and successful, as usual.<br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18575559905450959142012-02-06T15:39:34.323-05:002012-02-06T15:39:34.323-05:00a_ray,
And yet your actions counter your words. H...a_ray,<br /><br />And yet your actions counter your words. Hmm the entire point of this post.<br /><br /><br />Stay Classy a_ray.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41633836809864762802012-02-06T15:09:34.907-05:002012-02-06T15:09:34.907-05:00CE,Fortunately, I have the advantage of not giving...CE,Fortunately, I have the advantage of not giving a tinker's damn what you think. I've never seen the point in being tolerant of lying, racist idiots.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-51662698208510039652012-02-06T14:39:08.594-05:002012-02-06T14:39:08.594-05:00a_ray,
Your above comment says much more about yo...a_ray,<br /><br />Your above comment says much more about you than me. Of course all your little Rabett friends will give you a pass.<br /><br />Comments like this from the "tolerant" left never surprise me, all that repressed guilt they have with themselves, always seeps out.<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-60241578589449076902012-02-06T12:06:35.712-05:002012-02-06T12:06:35.712-05:00Celery Eater,
Actually, I'm hoping Obama does ...Celery Eater,<br />Actually, I'm hoping Obama does get re-elected so that I can watch your pointy, little, racist head explode.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-70061822462928925502012-02-06T11:48:45.011-05:002012-02-06T11:48:45.011-05:00Same Brian. Let us just hope Obama does not get r...Same Brian. Let us just hope Obama does not get re-elected so there will be more money funded to these safety net programs.<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-16431661113665615302012-02-05T21:03:02.904-05:002012-02-05T21:03:02.904-05:00I'm done repeating myself for CE. My comment ...I'm done repeating myself for CE. My comment immediately before his last one is my response.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-67973901160742662512012-02-04T19:24:20.039-05:002012-02-04T19:24:20.039-05:00Brian,
You said "What [the context of Romney...Brian,<br /><br />You said "What [the context of Romney's statement] indicates is his true belief that there were no holes in the safety net before the Great Recession, and that nothing the Republicans have done or plan to do will create more holes."<br /><br />And you then use LIHEAP as an example via the link. That is some twisted logic to say the Republicans are poking more holes in the poor's safety net by increasing a program's funding above what the President had requested. You are not too sharp are you?<br /><br />How you understand Romney's true beliefs with never have spoken to the man is truly amazing.<br /><br />Btw I have never "demanded" you write any particular article, all I said is I am waiting for you to write one about Obama, I do this knowing the wait will approach the end of time in length.<br /><br />Just to repeat, as you seem do have great difficulty in understanding, anything is; You attempted to understand Romney's beliefs based upon a statement he made about the poor and that his beliefs also included no possibilty that the Republicans did would/could create more holes in the poor's safety net. You linked an example of this on LIHEAP. I simply pointed out that the Republicans (all of Congress btw, for the record) funded that program above what the President requested.<br /><br />So if Romney believes there are no problems with the safety net for the ppor and lets the Republicans in Congress deal with those issues and programs the poor will be better off than what President Obama would do for them.<br /><br /><br />Actions Brian, actions not words.<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52440406807809672562012-02-04T15:22:52.497-05:002012-02-04T15:22:52.497-05:00CE: "Brian tried to use the funding of LIHEA...CE: "Brian tried to use the funding of LIHEAP as proof of how little Republicans care about the poor."<br /><br />I'd encourage you to read my original post as well. Let me quote the only sentence that seems to interest you, although you go off on a tangent instead of disputing the sentence:<br /><br />"What [the context of Romney's statement] indicates is his true belief that there were no holes in the safety net before the Great Recession, and that nothing the Republicans have done or plan to do will create more holes."<br /><br />The sentence is about Romney's beliefs as to potential holes that Republicans can make worse. The link was to Republicans trying to make things worse while increasing defense spending. The link emphasizes the combination of both factors, and emphasizes the many other attempts to create safety holes. I'm not capable of judging the best place to spend money on fixing this hole versus others, but the context that there are multiple holes that the Rs aren't trying to fix while increasing defense spending. <br /><br />As for your demand that I write a post about Obama and LIHEAP, here's something I wrote 5 years ago: "The first argument RPJr. makes is a common rhetorical device on the right side of the blogosphere, and occasionally, the left: 'How dare you guys fail to write about the things that I demand that you write about?'"<br /><br /><br />I've never been impressed with that argument, but if CE wants to create a blog post somewhere trying to make sense of his own position on LIHEAP and Obama, I'd be happy to leave a comment.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-46488088179323437132012-02-04T12:06:40.663-05:002012-02-04T12:06:40.663-05:00Dr Jay,
What was that PhD in, obfuscation? Missi...Dr Jay,<br /><br />What was that PhD in, obfuscation? Missing the point?<br /><br />That point, btw, is not whatever private virtues Romney or Buffet may have or lack, or how they treat their secretaries, dogs, churches, or wives.<br /><br />The point is policy, to wit, that Buffett advocates policies whereby the wealthy would be required to pay something like the tax rates paid by the middle class, while Romney advocates policies which would further priviledge those same ultra wealthy. Try to comprehend that point.CapitalistImperialistPighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17523405806602731435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36171377390427293492012-02-03T20:24:50.036-05:002012-02-03T20:24:50.036-05:00Gator,
Where to begin. Read the original post! B...Gator, <br /><br />Where to begin. Read the original post! Brian tried to use the funding of LIHEAP as proof of how little Republicans care about the poor. I see you did not provide the above information to him, funny that. Who is stupid now?<br /><br />If it were up to me I'd lower the funding of LIHEAP to $1 billion. I actually wish they went with at least Obama's recommendation, dummy.<br /><br /><br />Please provide your list of approved charities so we may apply this list to everyone.<br /><br /><br />Your blind devotion to your side is almost religious in its levels of intensity.<br /><br />You are a joke.<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-7403009172881811312012-02-03T19:33:00.047-05:002012-02-03T19:33:00.047-05:00Celery Eater -- one last thing. From the DHHS 201...Celery Eater -- one last thing. From the DHHS 2012 budget justification for LIHEAP:<br />"This returns program funding to the historic levels provided for FY 2008 ($2.57 billion), prior to the energy price spikes. Energy prices are currently at or below FY 2008 levels and are expected to increase moderately through FY 2012. The Administration will continue to monitor prices going forward."<br /><br />Gee, Obama is trying to save you money and you stab him in the back. Maybe you should try to understand some of the things you natter on about before making yourself look totally stupid. (OK, I know that won't happen based on your history but it has to be said.)<br /><br />GatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-21534661939366473682012-02-03T19:08:49.671-05:002012-02-03T19:08:49.671-05:00Celery Eater -- BTW dummy, the point of the 990 di...Celery Eater -- BTW dummy, the point of the 990 disclosure is that Romney "donates" X amount to his Tyler Charitable Foundation. The TCF donates 0.03*X to actual causes, and only half of those are to things that might be considered "charities" like his kids' schools, Harvard Business School etc. He's not exactly spending $7M on the heating oil you keep harping about. The money is found -- it's all sitting safely in his TCF.<br /><br />GatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-66726434643910623042012-02-03T19:00:09.095-05:002012-02-03T19:00:09.095-05:00Donating to the church you belong to (really any c...Donating to the church you belong to (really any church in my opinion) is more like paying your country club dues than donating to charity. By charity I mean something that might help people who actually need help. <br /><br />When you donate more to the George W Bush Library than you do to anything that actually helps people, well, yes I think that says something about your "charity."<br /><br />When you donate >$2M to your own private charity, and it disburses less than 3% of assets in a given year, in fact less than it made in investments, let alone your donation -- then yes, I think that says something about your "charity."<br /><br />This may not have that much to do with whether Romney would make a good president. But it certainly says volumes about the kind of person he is. <br /><br />GatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17662394024137697692012-02-03T18:41:45.476-05:002012-02-03T18:41:45.476-05:00We know Obama has proposed slashing aid to familes...<i>We know Obama has proposed slashing aid to familes for home heat in half just this past December."</i><br /><br />But isn't that the kind of thing that happens when so many could-be tax dollars go to the Church of Latter Day Saints instead of to the Federal Gummint?J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-56814859178705245282012-02-03T17:18:19.941-05:002012-02-03T17:18:19.941-05:00"To clarify, Rommney has proposed nothing in ..."To clarify, Rommney has proposed nothing in six years to fix safety net holes. If he had proposed anything, I'd expect it to have been dredged up by now."<br /><br />So?<br /><br />We know Obama has proposed slashing aid to familes for home heat in half just this past December.<br /><br />I am still waiting on your article decrying this most mean spirited action by the President.<br /><br />Actions and Words Brian, learn the difference.<br /><br />You are not very good at this are you?<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23573934280068672052012-02-03T17:05:02.200-05:002012-02-03T17:05:02.200-05:00To clarify, Rommney has proposed nothing in six ye...To clarify, Rommney has proposed nothing in six years to fix safety net holes. If he had proposed anything, I'd expect it to have been dredged up by now.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-62664782383023993792012-02-03T17:03:31.074-05:002012-02-03T17:03:31.074-05:00CE - what Romney has done is nothing, in six years...CE - what Romney has done is nothing, in six years of running for president, to fix the holes that he acknowledges as existing in the safety net for the very poor. Inaction speaks louder than words when he says that he would fix holes as president.<br /><br />I've assumed that he was personally generous with charitable donations. Gator raises some interesting questions. I have no idea how it will play out. That issue is relevant to what you think of him as a person, but it doesn't weigh very heavily IMHO as to whether he'd be a good president.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-10833036815892439142012-02-03T16:29:14.991-05:002012-02-03T16:29:14.991-05:00Yes, Romney is so charitable and helpful with his ...Yes, Romney is so charitable and helpful with his money.<br /><br /><br /><br />Agreed.<br /><br />$7 million in 2 years or 16.4%. It seems you have a lot more "investigating" to do to track down the rest of his donated dollars.<br /><br /><br />But I see not only does Romney have to donate to charity he must donate according to "Gator" rules, whatever the "F" those are.<br /><br />A truly pathetic effort.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-946048380347883502012-02-03T16:19:50.323-05:002012-02-03T16:19:50.323-05:00Here's a better copy of the 990:
http://c42304...Here's a better copy of the 990:<br />http://c4230422.r22.cf2.rackcdn.com/Tyler-Charitable-Foundation-990-2010.pdf<br /><br />Of the $647k the TCF gave away last year, $235 went directly to the Mormon Church or Mormon related services; $100k (the second largest single grant given)went to the George W Bush Library. <br /><br />Yes, Romney is so charitable and helpful with his money.<br /><br />GatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11296559778684221282012-02-03T16:01:15.538-05:002012-02-03T16:01:15.538-05:00So he gave tons of money to his own charitable org...So he gave tons of money to his own charitable organization. What does the Tyler Charitable Foundation do with that money?<br /><br />You can see their 990-PF online (here for example http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-romney-tyler-foundation-tax-form-20120124-pdf,0,6924811.htmlpage)<br /><br />They seem to actually only give out 3% of their money any given year. 2008 they gave out almost $2M, it would be interesting to see what that was for.<br /><br />So he is not giving his money to "charity" -- he's putting it in a lockbox, to use for who knows what or when.<br /><br />GatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-61973122343354102762012-02-03T14:28:44.967-05:002012-02-03T14:28:44.967-05:00- i dont have a "narrative"
- i was jus...- i dont have a "narrative"<br /><br />- i was just pointing out he is a rich SOB ..<br /><br /><br />lol Comedy gold right there<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br /><br /><br />Celery EaterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57681141354440827642012-02-03T13:40:49.952-05:002012-02-03T13:40:49.952-05:00i dont have a "narrative"
i was just poi...i dont have a "narrative"<br />i was just pointing out he is a rich SOB who donated stocks <br /> to his own foundation, which counts as a tax writeoff.<br />(period, full stop, just a fact not a narrative)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com