tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post5622247283813195490..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Tobis shellacs ShellenbergerEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-2435066662486710612023-04-08T12:57:39.340-04:002023-04-08T12:57:39.340-04:00baseus cobble wireless charger 15w wxys 01 Xces...baseus cobble wireless charger 15w wxys 01 <a href="https://xcessorieshub.com/" rel="nofollow">Xcesories Hub</a>Sarfraz Ahmadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12248912713621855393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55564366708553227042020-08-16T08:02:05.473-04:002020-08-16T08:02:05.473-04:00C: non-existent batteries.
BPL: I can assure yo...C: non-existent batteries.<br /><br />BPL: I can assure you batteries are real. I've seen them!<br />Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-61931164016150459952020-08-15T14:38:39.920-04:002020-08-15T14:38:39.920-04:00Boldie, Energy Returned On Energy Invested (EROEI)...Boldie, Energy Returned On Energy Invested (EROEI) does not address intermittency. If a source only has a fraction of a capacity factor, it has to be built out multiple times. And that doesn't even include extra infrastructure and non-existent batteries. Mike Dombroskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14722885486530482844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85676204855221813152020-08-06T08:15:18.394-04:002020-08-06T08:15:18.394-04:00And Canman cites Youtube as a rebuttal. It is to ...And Canman cites Youtube as a rebuttal. It is to laugh.Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-53488151025107491352020-08-05T18:03:21.289-04:002020-08-05T18:03:21.289-04:00Yes we're throwing facts at renewables:
https...Yes we're throwing facts at renewables:<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF6SNxNIV08Mike Dombroskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14722885486530482844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5964400173942194262020-08-05T08:13:59.660-04:002020-08-05T08:13:59.660-04:00C: PV energy is hopelessly dilute and intermitten...C: PV energy is hopelessly dilute and intermittent. <br /><br />BPL: As if anybody cares. "Dilute and intermittent" is a criticism made up by the fossil fuel industry and nuke freaks to have something, anything, they can throw at renewables.Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-71095531315568832422020-08-05T05:39:51.241-04:002020-08-05T05:39:51.241-04:00Canman:
By point was not to start a debate on nuc...Canman:<br /><br />By point was not to start a debate on nuclear vs renewables. It was to point out that Shellenberger did not show much integrity in dealing with the facts around renewables. <br /><br />One of his claims was that PV panels contains heavy metals and rare earth metals. Cadmium is certainly a heavy metal, but Cadmium Telluride panels only cover a small part of the market. So to act if all PV panels are full of heavy metals is a bait and switch. <br /><br />The cost per kWh is indeed dependent on the local climate, local bureaucracy and local installation cost, but the cost of the system components is determined by a global market. These costs have declined by roughly a factor then the last two decades so you can easily spot if somebody uses outdated cost data.<br /><br />EROEI is the energy return on energy investment. It is the lifetime energy output determined by the energy investment in during manufacturing, installation and maintenance. The output part will depend on the local climate but the investment part is mainly determined by manufacturing. The system efficiency has doubled the last two decades and manufacturers learned to use less material and energy, with the results that the EROEI also improved tremendously. If somebody uses old date on EROEI s to disqualify PV they are not sincere or do not know what they talk about.<br /><br />Boldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486934916498517559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69788510029119345332020-08-04T15:12:07.922-04:002020-08-04T15:12:07.922-04:00Supposed advances in "CdTe PV" are for a...Supposed advances in "CdTe PV" are for all practical purposes irrelevant in comparing PV to nuclear. PV energy is hopelessly dilute and intermittent. There's no way EROEI calculations can be made general. There are too many dependent variables (how much PV you already have, how much neighboring states and countries have, how much more land is available and how close it is, ... and probably a bunch of stuff nobody even thought of yet). It looks to me like just about every one of those dependent variables makes additional PV more expensive, while additional nuclear should add things like experience and scale to make it cheaper. Germany and France provide examples that support Shellenberger on every point.<br /><br />Most climate scientist that I have any respect for support nuclear -- James Hansen, Ken Caldeira, Kerry Emanuel.Mike Dombroskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14722885486530482844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43316988097872977142020-08-04T10:32:13.430-04:002020-08-04T10:32:13.430-04:00Not so long ago Shellenberger was just a propagand...Not so long ago Shellenberger was just a propagandist for nuclear power. In that role he already was playing fast and loose with the facts on renewables: using outdated data on costs and EROEI, bait and switch between CdTe PV modules and all PV modules, etc. <br /><br />So it does not really wonder me he has gone the way of Lomborg. He did not have much integrity to start with.Boldiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10486934916498517559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-51670042592213815822020-08-02T01:57:39.751-04:002020-08-02T01:57:39.751-04:00Brian,
Polar bear populations have recovered, but...Brian,<br /><br />Polar bear populations have recovered, but photos like this still bother me..<br /><br />https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/Z58y0Huqnoc8yYjVNFO2LPblNbN5ywVfte2gnnkzE7Ra2We6Ph2-BVjk4wg3p-5ljKfbp_VzUceMpa-iu07gifWI2m6GSnt0eIkB3i1BImmdlPZQ0sEzFa1MNYLCG6O0pGHe8ohbJLDz2Mxh9_l_KZWeZg7y2mPf4g<br /><br />*******<br /><br />Really liked your wildfire op-ed. <br /><br />Snapehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10191939953231437312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77846590086918930422020-08-01T14:09:13.324-04:002020-08-01T14:09:13.324-04:00Snape - hunting can be mismanaged but in the moder...Snape - hunting can be mismanaged but in the modern era it's not that big of a cause of ecological problems in the developed world. Always some exceptions though (wolf-hunting in Alaska). Logging remains a significant problem in the developed world, by contrast.<br /><br />Climate Wars - the last quail died out in Golden Gate Park a few years ago, sadly. And California quail are actually pretty cute, I'd rather have them be common and unafraid of people. People should be hunting turkey and wild pigs.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5306552103962195532020-07-31T23:29:35.625-04:002020-07-31T23:29:35.625-04:00San Francisco is sinking:
https://phys.org/news/20...San Francisco is sinking:<br />https://phys.org/news/2020-07-satellite-survey-california-coastal-hotspots.html<br />David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57661439545723923432020-07-23T21:34:35.158-04:002020-07-23T21:34:35.158-04:00Bay Area locovores should put their mouths where t...Bay Area locovores should put their mouths where their money is, and revive sustainable quail shoots on Telegraph Hill.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34923310275471333832020-07-22T21:21:23.466-04:002020-07-22T21:21:23.466-04:00Snape - I am sure that for most people, even those...Snape - I am sure that for most people, even those who are concerned about climate, the impacts on wildlife are all a bit academic. Environmentalists tend to feature highly amongst those that do have serious concerns, with species loss and deforestation high on the list - but whilst rhetoric like Shellenberger's insists these problems are not serious or that solutions proposed by Environmentalists - a very varied and non-uniform lot - are not good enough it looks to be all about making the issue about Environmentalism, not the environment or even sustainable economics. <br /><br />I think that purely on the basis of how global warming will impact human prosperity and security, being an Environmentalist is not a requirement for taking the issue and potential solutions seriously; they have done as I would expect and made a huge fuss about the issue. But the people in positions of power, influence, responsibility and trust had to abrogate their responsibility in order to make it a fringe problem that is for Environmentalists to fix. Not so much from Shellenberger about the profound and enduring damage to nuclear-for-climate ambitions from entrenching climate science denial (what need to replace FF's?) as principle response, through Doubt, Deny, Delay politicking.<br /><br />Environmentalist have lived up to and even exceeded my expectations but mainstream politics has failed - where it doesn't oppose it appeases with empty gestures. The successes of Renewables are almost the only real positives but they were successes in spite of beginning as empty gesturing.Ken Fabianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15774574952211541339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17880531769689416032020-07-21T03:12:33.841-04:002020-07-21T03:12:33.841-04:00Brian, the May 4/11 issue of The Nation has an art...Brian, the May 4/11 issue of The Nation has an article entitled The Extinction Crisis Comes Home to San Francisco by Jimmy Tobias. It's about the bay and estuary. Recommended. David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15914145623997712113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52666647624353413132020-07-20T17:35:45.919-04:002020-07-20T17:35:45.919-04:00Shellenberger is not worth reading. That said, I ...Shellenberger is not worth reading. That said, I often wonder how many of the people who claim to be concerned about climate change actually care about the biology it threatens?<br /><br />Case in point, hundreds of polar bears are killed every year by hunters. Hundreds of forests are leveled by chainsaws. Doesn’t even make the news. Had the same losses been the result of climate change? A big deal.<br /><br />The term, ‘selective outrage’ comes to mind.<br /><br /><br /><br />Snapehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10191939953231437312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-25449628938717919592020-07-18T09:57:33.833-04:002020-07-18T09:57:33.833-04:00And another take-down of Shellenberger:
https://w...And another take-down of Shellenberger:<br /><br />https://www.yaleclimateconnections.org/2020/07/review-bad-science-and-bad-arguments-abound-in-apocalypse-never/Barton Paul Levensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07630802738456749652noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-19767288238133952962020-07-17T20:58:16.414-04:002020-07-17T20:58:16.414-04:00Curious that Shellenberger's greatest appeal i...Curious that Shellenberger's greatest appeal is to people who don't care about global warming. Or nuclear for that matter - but why wouldn't it? The anti-environmentalist rhetoric runs deep; them being so unreasonable and alarmist for taking decades of top level expert advice on climate at face value, ie seriously AND unreasonable for not supporting the most unpopular and problematic clean energy option - nuclear - to fix this non problem. As if downplaying the seriousness of the climate problem were not antithetical to winning popular support for nuclear!<br /><br />The Ecomodernist's preferred path forward appears to be to use fossil fuels without constraint until everyone is too wealthy to be harmed by global warming and until everyone agrees to shift to some more advanced kinds of nuclear - in some distant future. What is not for climate science denying opponents of climate responsibility not to like?Ken Fabianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15774574952211541339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-12851555717576160262020-07-15T15:30:14.566-04:002020-07-15T15:30:14.566-04:00"1) Humans are not causing a “sixth mass exti..."1) Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”<br /><br />Yes we are."<br /><br />No, Eli. Schellenberger lost t count<br /><br />The sixth was the Neolithic megafauna wipe-out in the Americas and Austronesia<br /><br />That makes the present Anthropocene unpleasantness # 7.<br />These things take time , like wriring worse sequels to bad books:<br /><br />https://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2020/07/schellenberger-sequel-will-connect-dots.html<br />THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3650679762020296332020-07-15T15:27:56.917-04:002020-07-15T15:27:56.917-04:00Point 9:
"... most of the world will be able...Point 9:<br /><br /><i>"... most of the world will be able to handle future food crises. Subsistence farmers will not."</i><br /><br />One of the major points of Shellenberger's book is that one of the best environmental goals is to make farming machinery, fertilizers and irrigation available to poor countries so that they no longer have to have subsistence farmers, which nobody, given a choice, wants to be. Grow more food on less land and you have more room for mountain gorillas and such.Mike Dombroskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14722885486530482844noreply@blogger.com