tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post5481170703143532664..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52509410498239732812009-08-20T19:35:09.661-04:002009-08-20T19:35:09.661-04:00Is there a report on what happened at the ACS meet...Is there a report on what happened at the ACS meeting?Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91032842644533149852009-08-17T16:26:53.132-04:002009-08-17T16:26:53.132-04:00I'm all for solar fans arguing about attributi...I'm all for solar fans arguing about attribution in front of an audience of scientists.<br /><br />If I were going, I think I'd be very tempted to have quotes of various press releases or interviews to see how they match...<br /><br />I'm still wondering why the Army pays for Scafetta & West.<br /><br />Speaking of AGU, I see they're going to experiment with <a href="http://www.agu.org/pubs/pdf/Open_Review.pdf" rel="nofollow">"open review"</a>.<br /><br />(and meanwhile, Eli: PLEASE can't you disable the generic Anonymous? people still don't read your Dear Anon missive.)John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-87208685743027487602009-08-14T08:03:22.247-04:002009-08-14T08:03:22.247-04:00Some unmeasured chlorine atom reaction rates impor...Some unmeasured chlorine atom reaction rates important for stratospheric modeling of atom catalyzed removal of ozone<br />Mario J. Molina, F. S. Rowland<br />J. Phys. Chem., 1975, 79 (6), pp 667–669<br />Publication Date: March 1975 ()<br />DOI: 10.1021/j100573a024<br /><br />you were saying?EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15683411740039538782009-08-13T14:47:39.348-04:002009-08-13T14:47:39.348-04:00The International Polar Year results ought to be r...The International Polar Year results ought to be rolling in by then too:<br /><br />December 14 to 18, 2009: AGU Fall Meeting- ... a Union Session on Education and Outreach: U15 - 'Toward Environmental Literacy with Examples from IPY' <br /><br />http://ipy.arcticportal.org/index.php?option=com_k2&id=2259&view=item&Itemid=<br /><br />-----Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-74670825375383162392009-08-12T14:27:08.577-04:002009-08-12T14:27:08.577-04:00The ACS needs only ask one question:
"Are th...The ACS needs only ask one question:<br /><br />"Are the petition signatures <a href="http://desmogblog.com/big-coal-impersonating-charities" rel="nofollow">genuine</a>?"<br /><br />Then we can all sit back and watch heads explode.<br /><br />-- <a href="http://frankbi.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">bi</a>bi -- International Journal of Inactivismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03030282249404084578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-26883801217541108872009-08-12T08:18:06.312-04:002009-08-12T08:18:06.312-04:00John Said:
"I think ACS could then reply, say...John Said:<br />"I think ACS could then reply, saying "We take your concerns seriously. Could each of you who signed this please send us a list of your 10 most relevant peer-reviewed publications on climate science?""<br /><br />Or maybe even better:<br /><br />"We take your concerns seriously. Could each of you who signed this please send us a list of the top 10 most relevant peer-reviewed publications that made you form this opinion?"<br /><br />The list would probably be very similar in length of course, but that would be more telling.skankyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584908320777937193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81437981366832976802009-08-12T07:53:46.041-04:002009-08-12T07:53:46.041-04:00But, the ACS is not a Certified Climatologist Orga...But, the ACS is not a Certified Climatologist Organization and has no Approved High-Impact Peer-Reviewed Journals in Climatology.<br /><br />The statement is meaningless.<br /><br />And, what qualifies Bruce E. Bursten, Ph.D. to speak on Climatological issues? What are his Peer-Reviewed Papers appearing in the Approved Journals?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18640908862350040982009-08-12T07:18:49.111-04:002009-08-12T07:18:49.111-04:00Membership is certainly cheap, but attendance at t...Membership is certainly cheap, but attendance at these meetings rather less so.<br /><br />But anyway, there's always a few presentations like this in the mix. It's a big meeting.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23498237968269563482009-08-11T21:14:12.184-04:002009-08-11T21:14:12.184-04:00The Heartland Booth at ACS is right next to the te...The Heartland Booth at ACS is right next to the tea party booth. Chemistry is a vital part of tea you know.<br /><br />I'm planning on going to the AGU. Might be fun to see these in person. Nothing wrong with a little comedy to spice up the meeting.Dan Satterfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17103428750040230969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4774145019377183742009-08-11T19:06:37.055-04:002009-08-11T19:06:37.055-04:00It seems to me that these are two different kinds ...It seems to me that these are two different kinds of things.<br /><br />1) Arguments about actual solar behavior *could* be real science, and seem a legitimate topic for an AGU meeting ... in theory. Of course, in practice, with the specific individuals, perhaps not.<br /><br />Isn't it a fine thing that the US Army (ARO) supports Scafetta's research (and West, of course, works for the Army)?<br /><br />The AGU sessions do provide useful context for other efforts :-)<br /><br />2) A petition *against* the ACS position seems like something else. Weirdly, I would claim that one might *not* want to discourage people from signing this...<br /><br />I've been studying the Singer/Happer et al <a href="http://www.openletter-globalwarming.info/Site/open_letter.html" rel="nofollow">Open Letter to APS</a>, and it provided a useful list of names in one place. It was especially fun to see that 3 USC AsStronautics folks {Gruntman, Kunc, Rapp} signed, amidst an effort to get more funding for climate science for USC.<br /><br />It was also interesting to see that Kunc was the thesis advisor for one W.H. Soon...<br /><br />Put another way, people have difficulty getting some people to bet regarding climate change. These petitions are examples of another kind of bet for (most) people:<br /><br />"I bet my reputation as a scientist that I know enough about another field to declare it wrong."<br /><br />Personally, I think it is worth having such lists for future reference....<br /><br />I think ACS could then reply, saying "We take your concerns seriously. Could each of you who signed this please send us a list of your 10 most relevant peer-reviewed publications on climate science?"<br /><br />ACS seems as unlikely to weaken its position as APS, but of course, these efforts aren't really intended to accomplish that.John Masheyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786354229618237133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-7499027394637320232009-08-11T17:47:51.584-04:002009-08-11T17:47:51.584-04:00Bah. After McLean et al. came out I gave AGU a whi...Bah. After McLean et al. came out I gave AGU a while to mea culpa and when they didn't I told them not to bother sending a membership renewal as I no longer had any confidence in them. I also said I'd stop reviewing for them and would send future papers elsewhere.ex-AGU membernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-380607578767809802009-08-11T17:35:57.975-04:002009-08-11T17:35:57.975-04:00Who else has a table? A counter-petition seems, un...Who else has a table? A counter-petition seems, unfortunately, necessary.Michael Tobishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08229460438349093944noreply@blogger.com