tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post5099348320482672082..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Vote for the top climate story of 2012EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-12569625401704535862013-01-05T22:22:05.074-05:002013-01-05T22:22:05.074-05:00I still think change in circulation includes all o...I still think change in circulation includes all of these problems.<br /><br />Russell, your link comes up empty. And I'm furious with google, which still doesn't know you exist. Either that or the nasties you parody are doing some shibuwitchee.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829151452002682271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58158527401384316522013-01-03T06:28:00.847-05:002013-01-03T06:28:00.847-05:00For my money, Ice loss is the biggest 'in year...For my money, Ice loss is the biggest 'in year' story if you are being purist about what constitutes a climate story (other stories are bigger if you take a longer view than the year just ended, but the effects haven't really hit yet - the ongoing ice collapse is happening right now).<br /><br />If you extend the definition of 'climate related' to include the political response then Sandy is the biggest story simply because any single event that erodes US complacency on the issue is, by definition, a big deal.<br /><br />I voted for both in the OP.<br /><br />Regards<br />Lukesilburnlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17739307898180344411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55486077211179388002013-01-02T19:01:43.478-05:002013-01-02T19:01:43.478-05:00"It didn't get hot in the UK? (Well, if y..."It didn't get hot in the UK? (Well, if you're jumping up & down about the USA's climate, there is the rest of the world!)"<br /><br />Ah, the UK is now the rest of the world...<br />Most of Europe got pretty hot, too. Forest fires in Serbia and Bosnia, where they never happened, for example. No rain either; crops got massacred throughout Eastern Europe and the Balkans for one. <br /><br /><br />"Antarctic Sea Ice at record highs?"<br /><br />Yes, and check for yourself by how many times is that "record high" smaller than the Arctic sea ice loss. To say nothing of the Antarctic land ice loss...<br />Nyatinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4342221861187544212013-01-02T10:27:32.266-05:002013-01-02T10:27:32.266-05:00re: "Adaptation happens"
Yup.
My thou...re: "Adaptation happens"<br /><br />Yup. <br /><br />My thoughts from some years ago ...<br /><a href="http://rhinohide.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/pop-quiz-mitigation-or-adaptation/" rel="nofollow">pop-quiz-mitigation-or-adaptation/</a><br />Ron Broberghttp://rhinohide.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52901258639556447432013-01-02T09:40:14.534-05:002013-01-02T09:40:14.534-05:00I voted for the classic greenhouse gases. It look...I voted for the classic greenhouse gases. It looks like they, or something, is affecting the climate enough to keep the next ice age at bay for a few more years.<br /><br />Hopefully, it won't start with another Younger Dryas event. There isn't enough fossil energy to keep the northern hemisphere alive(or something like 90% of the world population) if the temps drop 10degC in 50 years or so.George Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09292106132836613827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-13299021318571899552013-01-02T03:47:27.484-05:002013-01-02T03:47:27.484-05:00Massive droughts, more not.
Imagine the jet missin...Massive droughts, more not.<br />Imagine the jet missing out on the Rockies lee trough to create Dustbowl 2.0, this one permanent. <br />In my speculation all else pales this decennium.<br /><br />/CRRcRR Kampenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571285063752477448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43459896907319368152013-01-01T04:36:52.226-05:002013-01-01T04:36:52.226-05:00I'd like to add one, the US gov't decision...I'd like to add one, the US gov't decision yesterday to continue the economic crisis for next 1-4 years. Though this is not actually climate related news it will hamper most of the efforts to get something done wrt mitigation. "Adaptation happens".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-92093451204923422302012-12-31T14:42:52.941-05:002012-12-31T14:42:52.941-05:00Let’s not forget this very robust refutation of th...Let’s not forget this very robust refutation of the very idea of climate modelling:<br /><br />> More than Bernoulli is at issue because Gosselin draws on the classical physics of d’Alembert, do you think the MSM will pay attention to him now that the bombshell paper by Marcie Rathke of the University of Southern North Dakota has been accepted for publication in Advances in Pure Mathematics?<br /><br />> Although ‘Independent, Negative, Canonically Turing Arrows of Equations and Problems in Applied Formal PDE’ may be a hard reading, the abstract is thankfully a model of concision:<br /><br />>> Let ρ = A. Is it possible to extend isomorphisms? We show that D´ is stochastically orthogonal and trivially affine. [For real atmospheric systems] the main result was the construction of p-Cardano, compactly Erdős, Weyl functions. This could shed important light on a conjecture of Conway–d’Alembert.<br /><br />> How many more times must the Turing insufficiency modeling hoax be mathematically demolished before Hansen, Mann, and the rest of the pro-modeling crowd publish a retraction ?<br /><br />http://neverendingaudit.tumblr.com/post/33913577790willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83213519347063550422012-12-31T11:59:04.087-05:002012-12-31T11:59:04.087-05:00Ron,
That's just the problem--weather is still...Ron,<br />That's just the problem--weather is still driving people's conception of climate. a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-70837907363791667232012-12-31T10:10:09.458-05:002012-12-31T10:10:09.458-05:00Adam's attitude isn't unexpected, though. ...Adam's attitude isn't unexpected, though. Plenty more like him. While the Arctic melt was dramatic, stunning, I had to prod the editor at Real Clear Science to put it on his article list ... and he shortly followed it with a "record ice in Antarctica" piece. That is why Sandy, even though it is more distantly related to climate change than the Arctic melt, is the bigger story. You can't play "move along; nothing to see here" with that kind of devastation unless your initials are RPjr. Arctic melting is the big science story of the year; Sandy will have much bigger impact on public policy and opinion. Ron Broberghttp://rhinohide.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43958932609313485362012-12-31T10:07:50.879-05:002012-12-31T10:07:50.879-05:00Here's the hopefully working link :
http://... Here's the hopefully <a href="http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2012/12/moving-upmarket.html" rel="nofollow">working link </a>: <br /><br /><a rel="nofollow">http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2012/12/moving-upmarket.html</a>THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1237813181992009692012-12-31T10:06:25.823-05:002012-12-31T10:06:25.823-05:00"Leaking of IPCC SOD, so we can see what chan..."Leaking of IPCC SOD, so we can see what changes the politicians get inserted into the summary for policy makers?"<br /><br />Um. You do realize that anyone who wanted to could sign up to be a reviewer of the IPCC SOD and get an advanced look? And that the IPCC was planning on archiving the various drafts and releasing them with the final version?<br /><br />-MMMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-66143767291808597992012-12-31T10:03:58.196-05:002012-12-31T10:03:58.196-05:00Don't forget THE TOP SCIENCE STORIES OF 2013
...Don't forget THE TOP SCIENCE STORIES OF 2013<br /><br />http://vvattsupwiththat.blogspot.com/2012/12/moving-upmarket.htmlTHE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38659780952740768972012-12-31T09:58:47.146-05:002012-12-31T09:58:47.146-05:00Adam Gallon,
Congratulations on the most myopic an...Adam Gallon,<br />Congratulations on the most myopic answer of the year. I don't think even Eunice can beat you. a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-72700971948874855462012-12-31T09:11:01.919-05:002012-12-31T09:11:01.919-05:00Pity there's no category for "None of the...Pity there's no category for "None of the above"<br />How about Global accumulated cyclone energy at an all-time low?<br />Antarctic Sea Ice at record highs?<br />Increases in GHGs whilst temperatures haven't shown a significant rise for ~16 years?<br />It didn't get hot in the UK? (Well, if you're jumping up & down about the USA's climate, there is the rest of the world!) <br />No acceleration in rate of sea level rise?<br />UK Environment Agency predicts drought to extend possibly beyond Christmas, just before the heavens open to give us one of the wettest years ever?<br />Liar produces forged document to try to blacken orgaisation's name?<br />Australian musicologist at Austrian university advocates death sentance for those who don't agree with his views?<br />Bitterly cold winter across Europe?<br />Leaking of IPCC SOD, so we can see what changes the politicians get inserted into the summary for policy makers?<br />That last one gets my vote.Adam Gallonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38565840113925652202012-12-31T05:56:59.185-05:002012-12-31T05:56:59.185-05:00Without looking at the results (so people don'...Without looking at the results (so people don't call me a sheeple :)) I voted for the spectacular loss of ice. It epitomises the dramatic change that is happening.<br /><br />I agree with Bernard J that the loss of biodiversity is the most worrisome.<br /><br />Many others on the list - here down under we've already been through what the US went through this year. (I'm not minimising them in any way - don't get me wrong.) Yasi plus - thankfully we didn't have a New York in its path; the big wet that followed the big dry; the catastrophic fires killing nearly 200 people - all record-breaking 'events' (if you call a decade-long drought an 'event').Souhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08818999735123752034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36221504502683171052012-12-30T22:55:32.931-05:002012-12-30T22:55:32.931-05:00Yet again Eunice aptly demonstrates herself to be ...Yet again Eunice aptly demonstrates herself to be a clueless git.Jim Eagernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11962420356669264302012-12-30T21:33:57.171-05:002012-12-30T21:33:57.171-05:00I thought the recent passing storm would delay the...I thought the recent passing storm would delay the most severe potentials on the Mississippi, but checking the gages, apparently not. There are some barge operators already lowering their shipping weight. More might be following very soon. Not trying to sway the vote, since the headlines, should they come, would come next year ...<br /><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iiabjLy2GJpcFWZeVD39V2GgghbA?docId=b3848ca6176c4c4f9940fccf7e31fe39" rel="nofollow">Mississippi River drops, threatening barge traffic</a><br /><a href="http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news/2012/12/27/mississippi-river-shutdown-forecast.html" rel="nofollow">Mississippi River shutdown forecast for next week</a>Ron Broberghttp://rhinohide.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-62582528195271515212012-12-30T19:12:13.154-05:002012-12-30T19:12:13.154-05:00a deluge of retarded straw-man arguments from Euni...a deluge of retarded straw-man arguments from Eunice? in this crazy, messed-up world, it's good to know that some things don't change :-)hlignenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-56737463695424974212012-12-30T15:17:05.577-05:002012-12-30T15:17:05.577-05:00
What scared me most was the death of corn in Kans...<br />What scared me most was the death of corn in Kansas when temps his 114.Jeffrey Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966839006518642902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-78664299400557496912012-12-30T13:14:24.209-05:002012-12-30T13:14:24.209-05:00Seems to me changes in atmospheric circulation aff...Seems to me changes in atmospheric circulation affect a lot of things including the big storms.Holly Stickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01137842937086115228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6162934494256132772012-12-30T12:30:16.236-05:002012-12-30T12:30:16.236-05:00It's a tough choice.
I was going to vote for ...It's a tough choice.<br /><br />I was going to vote for unthinkable, unheard of, category 6 uber-storm Sandy.<br /><br />Then I was thinking how the drought had grown such that it doesn't rain anywhere on the planet anymore.<br /><br />But that doesn't compare to the very, VERY bad storms which happen now and never happened in the past.<br /><br />But I voted instead for how warming rates now exceed Hansen's scenario X and even the high end of IPCC projections.<br /><br />Happy New Year!<br /><br />EuniceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-63377065128282904702012-12-30T11:36:25.305-05:002012-12-30T11:36:25.305-05:00from an interest perspective: the implosion in Ar...from an interest perspective: the implosion in Arctic ice. it's one thing for records to creep in every couple of years, but this summer's melting season was...."spectacular" isn't quite the right word....<br /><br />from a political action perspective: probably Sandy, despite it not having been a big deal over here in the land of Peter Rabett. it's the story that got the media interested, even more than the massive drought.<br /><br />from an entertainment perspective: i was going to say Heartland's self-immolation, though Millicient's suggestion of the AR5 leak might be even better. it's nice to see how utterly desperate they are getting, and that (as with the CRU email flop last year) the media are no longer invariably regurgitating the denialist line.<br /><br />happy new year to Professor Rabett, and all the little mice and bunnies!<br />lignenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-33114342211489178772012-12-30T09:35:46.318-05:002012-12-30T09:35:46.318-05:00The story of the year for me was the attempt to mi...The story of the year for me was the attempt to misrepresent the IPCC draft report. It was so blatant, so transparent, that it was obvious that not even the stupidest climate change denier out there could have believed it: it was the day that climate change denial was shown to be an utterly fake movement peddling nonsense that they know themselves is nonsense.<br /><br />Regards, MillicentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86627907649986497522012-12-30T06:31:26.696-05:002012-12-30T06:31:26.696-05:00Having not really had a "summer" (NH), a...Having not really had a "summer" (NH), apart from a week or so in March(!), and a situation now where half-an-hour's drizzle leads to standing pools of water on what was my garden lawn and streamlets running down through the orchard-cum-chicken run, but which is now not much more than a mud pile... the choice was easy for me.<br /><br />As to Eli's fave? Given Eli's preponderance for all things arctic and where we once had lots more ice, the choice looks easy... except I think it's probably Sandy related and so will plump for no. 2: Sandy and Sea Level Rise.<br /><br /><i>Cymraeg llygoden</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com