tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post5012382937037245180..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Bunny BaitEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-60456952351010736662015-12-17T20:29:40.323-05:002015-12-17T20:29:40.323-05:00and now the reprise ........and now the <a href="https://archive.is/6UANt" rel="nofollow">reprise</a> ........Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12083190014669867976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-35717907544223222622013-05-16T01:50:28.850-04:002013-05-16T01:50:28.850-04:00Table. The mean temperature trends from Figure 17 ...Table. The mean temperature trends from Figure 17 of Watts et al. (2012) in °C per decade.<br /><br />if that's for the hottest minute in 24h, or in the year; what about the other 1439 minutes in the 24h, they don't fluctuate as the hottest minute; that makes every minute just as important. ignoring all the other; makes you dishonest / inacurateAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-39965082912698476622012-12-24T21:35:35.794-05:002012-12-24T21:35:35.794-05:00Heh,
When I read the draft and got to the part wh...Heh,<br /><br />When I read the draft and got to the part where they explained why they threw out well sited stations with long records and few station moves because they didn't fit their preconceived notions my jaw hit the floor and my blood pressure shot up! <br /><br />But I don't think that this paper will appear anywhere but E&E. It will never make it through any form of actual peer review. Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4229855239759768032012-12-24T20:06:49.836-05:002012-12-24T20:06:49.836-05:00Wait until it is published, thus far it is all han...Wait until it is published, thus far it is all hand-waving and still essentially depends on dropping stations that disagree with their hypothesis that much of the warming trend can be explained by station siting issues.<br /><br />We've been waiting quite a while for it to be published, come to think of it ... :)<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38282494744253892092012-12-24T14:34:50.754-05:002012-12-24T14:34:50.754-05:00Evan Jones tells me I'm wrong, that airports r...Evan Jones tells me I'm wrong, that airports really do get the readings wrong. He's telling me that here:<br />http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2012/07/30/shorter-anthony-watts-ignore-cities-discount-all-noaa-sites-that-show-warming-and-global-warming-doesnt-look-so-bad/#comment-263488<br /><br />If you're expert in these affairs, could you drop by and tell me where I err?<br /><br />Thanks.Ed Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10056539160596825210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-10509948888972926062012-08-06T16:41:55.265-04:002012-08-06T16:41:55.265-04:00Eli prefers Mencken's second law: no one ever ...Eli prefers Mencken's second law: no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American publicEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-82014516555526834492012-08-06T12:43:32.053-04:002012-08-06T12:43:32.053-04:00The theory Watts is testing is attributed to Barnu...The theory Watts is testing is attributed to <i>Barnum et al., 1861</i>, but the theory had been proposed and researched for decades before that ( Bessimer, Hannum, et al. 1840, Forepaugh, 1850) and was not expressed in its current form until M. C. McDonald, 1940: <br />"Don't worry about that, there's a sucker born every minute."<br /><br />The first formulation of the theory, "there's a mark born every minute," allegedly appeared in unpublished manuscripts dating back to the early 19th century.Marion Delgadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09493068399042656060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-13953241201335005552012-08-04T10:32:53.576-04:002012-08-04T10:32:53.576-04:00Even better is the very next comment from "ta...Even better is the very next comment from "tadchem" in which called the correct comparison (as made by the BEST team)incorrect!<br /><br />"<i>An even more funfdamental error, one which can only be accounted for through mendacity, is that they are plotting a histogram of *anomalies* (transient deviations), while the siting errors resulting in the five site categories would be expected to create *biases* (systematic deviations).<br />Apples and oranges…</i>"<br /><br />You just can't argue with logic like that! No seriously, you can't argue with it.Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-86450416761039749282012-08-03T23:00:38.516-04:002012-08-03T23:00:38.516-04:00"In which Tony shows that he *still* doesn..."<i>In which Tony shows that he *still* doesn't understand the difference between anomalies, absolute temps and temperature trends...</i>"<br /><br />But Rattus, as Billy Blofeld says on 3 August at 6:46 am <br /><br />"<i>Superbly written... I trust Anthony more because he writes in such a gentlemanly way.</i>"<br /><br /><br />Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36581138338717087752012-08-03T22:39:08.274-04:002012-08-03T22:39:08.274-04:00"Secure all hot beverages before you follow t..."<i>Secure all hot beverages before you follow this link:</i>"<br /><br />Which goes to show that Watts' campaign has been successful: mission accomplished. <br /><br />As long as there is, somewhere, an uneducated reporter prepared to regurgitate and reprocess any old nonsense, it matters not one whit if Watts is capable of science. All he needs to do is to tell people that he is, and the suckers will believe him.<br /><br />I read last week that the reason that Nigerian scammers leave references to Nigeria in their emails when one might expect that it would be counterproductive, is that it dissuades any but the most gullible from bothering them, and that this latter cohort is sufficient to generate significant profit. It seems that denialism works on a similar principle - one doesn't want the intelligent gumming up your works, just the brain-dead who will help to spread the bullshit.<br /><br />Describes WWWT to a tee.<br /><br />I hope that CBS has a policy of issuing high-visibility retractions for bad reporting... Is there a complaints mechanism in the States?<br /><br /><br />Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-75162827960953698222012-08-03T21:44:13.315-04:002012-08-03T21:44:13.315-04:00And suddenly a press release turns into a WMO appr...And suddenly a press release turns into a WMO approved study. Yeah, right...Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4004509971786511742012-08-03T17:59:25.506-04:002012-08-03T17:59:25.506-04:00Secure all hot beverages before you follow this li...Secure all hot beverages before you follow this link:<br /><br />http://washington.cbslocal.com/2012/08/03/study-half-of-global-warming-in-us-is-significantly-over-estimated/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36444129892637767702012-08-03T12:10:30.854-04:002012-08-03T12:10:30.854-04:00In which Tony shows that he *still* doesn't un...In which Tony shows that he *still* doesn't understand the difference between anomalies, absolute temps and temperature trends:<br /><br />http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/03/an-uncorrected-assumption-in-bests-station-quality-paper/<br /><br />How can someone so stupid (or is this deliberate?) have so much influence? Please, don't answer that question, it might be too depressing.Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17960227274549615712012-08-03T10:20:35.524-04:002012-08-03T10:20:35.524-04:00For those who missed the BBC-Wark Chris Field v Pi...For those who missed the BBC-Wark Chris Field v Pielke Jr. 'discussion' alluded to by Steve Bloom look here:<br /><br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/8495875.stm" rel="nofollow">BBC Newsnight 3 February 2010</a>Lionel Ahttp://lionels.orpheusweb.co.uk/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-32977693514177244822012-08-02T16:01:28.088-04:002012-08-02T16:01:28.088-04:00China is fun, but Singapore and Hong Kong are Chin...China is fun, but Singapore and Hong Kong are China with subtitles. Also, if you look at the BEST web page it looks like one of the first four is now accepted. Wheels of the gods and all that.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34778675036044968932012-08-02T14:55:43.869-04:002012-08-02T14:55:43.869-04:00John N-G writes::
'Muller’s got a new paper o...John N-G <a href="http://blog.chron.com/climateabyss/2012/08/good-time-to-go/" rel="nofollow">writes:</a>:<br /><br />'Muller’s got a new paper out, Watts has a new draft paper out, and Hansen has a new peer-reviewed paper out. While I contemplate the various options (become a co-author, write a comment, etc.), I think I’ll go to China to do some real science.'John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23758070485596013502012-08-02T07:28:19.413-04:002012-08-02T07:28:19.413-04:00re rpjr. so there is a history. and I wondered abo...re rpjr. so there is a history. and I wondered about the intensity of rpjr's "corrections". stupid jumbuck me. Nvrthlss: Field could have done better. /OTobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17276352775562324960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-53178225388495780622012-08-02T01:36:54.540-04:002012-08-02T01:36:54.540-04:00BTW, as background for a little denialist-batting ...BTW, as background for a little denialist-batting elsewhere I finally read the Watts paper carefully. Two-thirds through I started saying to myself "Can this truly be as content-free as it appears?" In short, yes.<br /><br />In someone's opinion, perhaps not mine but almost certainly Eli's, Our Tony is more than a little desperate from a loss of traffic.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1599592025528573922012-08-02T01:31:51.406-04:002012-08-02T01:31:51.406-04:00Anon 4:28 PM, sadly that would involve giving RP J...Anon 4:28 PM, sadly that would involve giving RP Jr. the desired attention. Best to just let him stew in his own increasingly irrelevant juices. <br /><br />Also, we can take heart from the fact that the last time he went after Field in public it was on the Beeb evening news. Far have the not-so-mighty fallen.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-20971300833648663792012-08-02T00:56:23.607-04:002012-08-02T00:56:23.607-04:00"Nope, Watts was aware of TOBS as pointed out..."Nope, Watts was aware of TOBS as pointed out by vvenema at CA from the conclusions of the Watts paper."<br /><br />Not only that, but you'll have seen mentions of TOB in the frequently-appearing posts complaining about USHCN at WUWT.<br /><br />Watts knew about TOB. You can't not know about it, if you look at USHCN. He just doesn't know how to do anything resembling logical analysis.carrot eaternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52801193775978958612012-08-01T23:56:58.829-04:002012-08-01T23:56:58.829-04:00Anonymous, never mind what has been said about rat...Anonymous, never mind what has been said about rats and sinking ships in the past.<br /><br />In the present case they have taken over the bridge.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-31291053826250128262012-08-01T22:47:05.161-04:002012-08-01T22:47:05.161-04:00Taylor B
I actually have a copy of Rapp's new...Taylor B<br /><br />I actually have a copy of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Climate-Debate-Donald-Rapp/dp/1469967111/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1343875328&sr=8-2&keywords=donald+rapp+assessing" rel="nofollow">Rapp's newest book</a> because I could not resist. It sits on the shelf with "Roosters of the Apocalypse," and other such items. Some day, I may review it in more detail, but for now I merely quote from p.388:<br /><br />'Throughout the period 2009-2012 he has continued to diligently read every significant new paper in climate change and he has monitored the discussions of climate change on the good blogs: climateaudit.org and judithcurry.com.'John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-60397760186825284942012-08-01T19:56:48.784-04:002012-08-01T19:56:48.784-04:00TOB or not TOB. Watt was the question?
J Bowers, ...TOB or not TOB. Watt was the question?<br /><br />J Bowers, you insult clowns everywhere by comparing McIntyre & Watts to Laurel & Hardy.<br /><br />Clowns are truly honourable people that heal by converting pain into laughter, often with great self-sacrifice.Andy Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57582573697443777162012-08-01T19:28:40.042-04:002012-08-01T19:28:40.042-04:00Eli and readers,
Please help Roger Rabbit Junior ...Eli and readers,<br /><br />Please help <a href="http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.ca/2012/08/ipcc-lead-author-misleads-us-congress.html" rel="nofollow">Roger Rabbit Junior</a> understand that what is so very wrong with his attempt to smear Field.<br /><br />Roger Rabbit Junior needs to do some more reading on extremes and attribution.<br /><br />Gracias.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41286222532804409612012-08-01T19:20:44.722-04:002012-08-01T19:20:44.722-04:00Because the time of observation bias is now a hot ...Because the <a href="http://variable-variability.blogspot.de/2012/08/a-short-introduction-to-time-of.html" rel="nofollow">time of observation bias</a> is now a hot topic, I have written a short introduction. I hope it is useful for the discussions.Victor Venemahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02842816166712285801noreply@blogger.com