tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post459938631232985750..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Monckton Will HelpEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-44161088869734290492012-09-04T23:38:31.642-04:002012-09-04T23:38:31.642-04:00The hilarious thing is that WUWT *did* post some n...The hilarious thing is that WUWT *did* post some nonsense about a artic ice recovery....Flakmeisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15354152586333024652012-09-04T08:49:34.782-04:002012-09-04T08:49:34.782-04:00Done.
Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq.<a href="http://i45.tinypic.com/w1bii1.jpg" rel="nofollow">Done</a>.<br /><br /><br />Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6418164092138075452012-09-04T08:44:26.192-04:002012-09-04T08:44:26.192-04:00Ya know that little pontification stage that WWWT ...Ya know that little pontification stage that WWWT is providing for Monckton? Well, it seems that only certain players are allowed to perform...<br /><br />Here's <a href="http://i48.tinypic.com/2uymyih.jpg" rel="nofollow">what I said</a>:<br /><br />"<i>Mr Monckton.<br /><br />In all of this you have assiduously avoided addressing Tom P's substantive points. You rail against his name, but it matters not a whit if he styles himself as Peter Pan if his argument is sound, and thus far you have done nothing to demonstrate that Tom P is incorrect.<br /><br />Oh, there's been a lot of huffing and puffing, but anyone who is numerate can see quite plainly that you are prevaricating. Indeed, it seems that you are caught in a recursive loop of avoidance, so I would suggest a simple way to break the deadlock.<br /><br />Write your "proof of an independent constraint on climate sensitivity" in exactly a form that would be presented to a professionally reviewed journal. You know, similar to the draft paper that Anthony Watts released just over a month ago. Include in it a rebuttal of Tom P's disputation. Doing so will not only cement your case if you are correct, it will also show that you understand the mathematics and physics sufficiently that you are able to engage at that level.<br /><br />If you can construct such an argument, <i>then</i> real scientists might take you seriously. Otherwise, all you are good for is fodder for the denialosphere.</i>"<br /><br />Here's what <a href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/08/31/an-independent-constraint-on-climate-sensitivity/#comment-1071030" rel="nofollow">the moderator said</a>:<br /><br />"<i>[Snip. 'Denialism' or its synonyms violates site Policy. ~dbs, mod.]</i>"<br /><br />Let's see what happens if I engage in some judicious self-censorship...<br /><br /><br />Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-35144186074721304562012-09-03T10:11:58.953-04:002012-09-03T10:11:58.953-04:00The preceding reflects the failure ofWUWTwonderkin...The preceding reflects the failure ofWUWTwonderkindling :'MangoChutney ' to note <br /><br />September 2, 2012 at 11:58 am<br />"<i>We are worse than Nazis?…ok then…how do we compare with the Osmonds?<br /><br />Ha! Not so bad now, are we?</i><br /><br /><br />that the Godwin-winning first strike in the <i> Watts: My Role In His Downfall</i> wars <a href="http://youtu.be/WYup_vNcoEs" rel="nofollow"> came from his own side.</a>THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77085450195340172692012-09-02T16:08:47.612-04:002012-09-02T16:08:47.612-04:00It's time for the WUWT videovergeltungskaption...It's time for the WUWT <i>videovergeltungskaptionflotte</i> to bid fairwell to Heligoland, and set sail for the Osmond's shores to hunt the wild Godwin in the fever swamps of East Anglia.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3590339258336513342012-09-02T16:03:40.223-04:002012-09-02T16:03:40.223-04:00Rest assured Hargreaves is no Hargreaves-Allen.Rest assured Hargreaves is no Hargreaves-Allen.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52776584566988427642012-09-02T10:54:03.493-04:002012-09-02T10:54:03.493-04:00Speaking of the Good Lawd!, his arse is being serv...Speaking of the Good Lawd!, his arse is being served by Tom P. as toad-in-the-hole, over at WWWT.<br /><br />Richard Courtney is reprising his role as the mash to Monckton's banger, and Willard is working on his comedy routine - I mean, who couldn't help but guffaw at the witty "Your Snideship"?<br /><br />Monckton's mathematical errors really are of school-kid level, and he has written thousands of words to skirt around it. But I'm not sure if that's worse than his pompous declaration:<br /><br />"<i>Now hear this. From here on, do science, not politics, and do not sully science with willful or ignorant attempts at diversion. The result described in my short and not particularly complicated paper is respectable, as far as I or anyone else who has seen it so far can see. Please, please, produce proper, serious arguments against it, or go and play in somebody else’s sandbox. The time for intellectual dishonesty is over.</i>" <br /><br />or his inherently sexist:<br /><br />"<i>I suggest that Jim D, whoever he or she is...</i>" <br /><br />And just because he's an even more pompous linguistic ponce that I, my own snideness moves me to record Chris's:<br /><br />"<i>If Mr. Curtin is right, that is further good news: for it indicates that the biosphere, far from taking up a declining fraction of the CO2 we emit, are doing the opposite.</i>"<br /><br />I'll leave it to the reader to find the [<i>sic</i>].<br /><br /><br />Loud Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq. of BenchpressAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-811973678079597472012-09-02T01:28:46.486-04:002012-09-02T01:28:46.486-04:00Jay, if you have the stomach for it Humlum has a w...Jay, if you have the stomach for it Humlum has a website where he goes on at length about his many brilliant and paradigm-smashing insights.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-8911902065467277812012-09-02T01:25:32.272-04:002012-09-02T01:25:32.272-04:00But Magnus, note that J. Hargreaves considers it t...But Magnus, note that J. Hargreaves considers it to be some sort of badge of honor to let such stuff through.Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-37736580824703109272012-09-02T01:21:32.460-04:002012-09-02T01:21:32.460-04:00+1 Russell
I'm reminded by this to say that I...+1 Russell<br /><br />I'm reminded by this to say that I think you're the Platonic ideal of someone suited to mock Watts. Others, not me I hasten to say but very probably Eli... well, OK, me too... do our best but descend into mere belittling insult so fast that our poor Asperpger's sufferer Tony can't even perceive the transition, whereas you put the frost right on the proverbial punkin' head. Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-56755584370716902412012-09-01T13:53:37.664-04:002012-09-01T13:53:37.664-04:00@bluedwarf
I was thinking they might be the clima...@bluedwarf<br /><br />I was thinking they might be the climate elves of current fame, but turns out they are just yet more climate gomers - as if we haven't enough of those already.<br /><br />Regards, MillicentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-44074128287441224812012-09-01T08:24:02.268-04:002012-09-01T08:24:02.268-04:00I call emeriti.
The trio consists of a geology pr...I call emeriti.<br /><br />The trio consists of a geology professor (geomorphology + climate, mainly) who is currently a visiting professor in Oslo, started publishing in 1976. #2 is aged 67 and is/was market researcher/forecaster in a telecommunications company. The last one is an emeritus professor in astrophysics. They started writing about how climate change is all natural in 2011. bluedwarfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-39250762144354919532012-09-01T03:22:27.211-04:002012-09-01T03:22:27.211-04:00Same journal let this gem through: http://westerst...Same journal let this gem through: http://westerstrand.blogspot.se/2008/09/its-that-time-of-year.htmlMagnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617272924116099306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-78219857153926118512012-09-01T02:53:57.346-04:002012-09-01T02:53:57.346-04:00The problem (as I say) is that journalists not int...The problem (as I say) is that journalists not interested in the science but the mames will say loook faaaaaar from settled science! and the public goes uh... and it takes time from "serious" research... there should be a system to mark journals that let this kind of garbage through or something.Magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617272924116099306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38955963628400868192012-09-01T02:27:02.708-04:002012-09-01T02:27:02.708-04:00did not find another place to report a paper by th...did not find another place to report a paper by those wealthy noirwegians: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658<br /><br />sub-arctic bunnyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11046784626313765612012-09-01T00:00:26.770-04:002012-09-01T00:00:26.770-04:00"Turns out that global warming since 1850 is ..."<i>Turns out that global warming since 1850 is all due to natural cycles after all.</i>"<br /><br />Indeed?<br /><br />I wonder into which little pocket of the space-time continuum Ol' Ho-hum <i>et al</i> placed the sum total of human carbon emissions over the last few centuries, and the inconvenient laws of physics that were attached?<br /><br /><br />Bernard J. Hyphen-Anonymous XVII, Esq.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-84264643026822533832012-08-31T21:26:25.368-04:002012-08-31T21:26:25.368-04:00Be of good courage Spookytooth.
Monckton's mi...Be of good courage Spookytooth.<br /><br />Monckton's miracle cure works as well on lumpus as the mange.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22775448797332058142012-08-31T20:50:55.519-04:002012-08-31T20:50:55.519-04:00Stumpytooth wrote: " the record ice extent of...Stumpytooth wrote: " the record ice extent of Antarctica"<br /><br />http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.area.antarctic.png<br />and<br />http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/seaice.anomaly.antarctic.png<br /><br />Surely you jest?<br /><br />Or are you so arrogant as to think that no one here would bother to check?<br /><br />Or are you truly that deluded?<br /><br />Fool.Jim Eagernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-90378098973210912692012-08-31T20:31:38.800-04:002012-08-31T20:31:38.800-04:00I strongly suspect that no explosions are imminent...I strongly suspect that <a href="http://tamino.wordpress.com/2012/08/30/sea-ice-triple-play/#comment-69243" rel="nofollow">no explosions are imminent</a>. <br /><br />Now, there's a surprise.<br /><br />A sound thrashing, on the other hand, might be. Could be entertaining, but what a waste of effort all round.billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-35526699907128405772012-08-31T19:02:25.509-04:002012-08-31T19:02:25.509-04:00Well, it's fortunate I didn't say anything...Well, it's fortunate I didn't say anything about a tipping point. But would you agree with Curry that what is happening this year is not significant?Holly Stickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01137842937086115228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-71263717153749294192012-08-31T15:29:30.948-04:002012-08-31T15:29:30.948-04:00...meanwhile... Doing what any bunny frustrated at......meanwhile... Doing what any bunny frustrated at a pay wall blocking his digging would do - I looked up the authors on Google Scholar. Turns out that global warming since 1850 is all due to natural cycles after all.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14191262506975234138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48134482546903633362012-08-31T15:10:59.091-04:002012-08-31T15:10:59.091-04:00Well promise not to explode from this then: http:/...Well promise not to explode from this then: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921818112001658?v=s5<br />~Magnus Westerstrand<br /><br />I promise to put my feet up and smoke a pipe until some person cleverer than me and with access to the full article - not just the abstract - cogitates on the thing and puts it into context.<br /><br />Not exploding from single papers is a personal rule of mine.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14191262506975234138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23771509566913643392012-08-31T15:03:23.981-04:002012-08-31T15:03:23.981-04:00tipping point as in: "if the ice does not rec...tipping point as in: "if the ice does not recover from a certain ice loss caused by climatic warming even if the climatic forcing were to return to the colder conditions that existed before the onset of that specific ice loss." cited from <br /><br />Notz, D., 2009: The future of ice sheets and sea ice: between reversible retreat and unstoppable loss, Proc. Nat. Ac. Sci., 106(49), 20590-20595. doi: 10.1073/pnas.0902356106. <br /><br />Which to my understanding follows the classical definition of "tipping points".OBothenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-75026823183704331652012-08-31T13:13:17.385-04:002012-08-31T13:13:17.385-04:00A tipping point to what? No one doubts that if it...A tipping point to what? No one doubts that if it is cold the ice can recover, OTOH a thin layer of ice that disappears in the summer is not the same climate driver as what we had twenty years ago.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-684918620542642362012-08-31T12:22:45.192-04:002012-08-31T12:22:45.192-04:00Oh, Lumpus, the current antarctic sea ice extent o...Oh, Lumpus, the current antarctic sea ice extent only lies about one-sigma above average.<br /><br />http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_stddev_timeseries.png<br /><br />Not at all comparable to what's happening in the arctic, as predicted long ago.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.com