tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post4321587168078441584..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-48137072675564711702008-04-16T02:47:00.000-04:002008-04-16T02:47:00.000-04:00Yours truly would like to propose an algorithm bas...Yours truly would like to propose <A HREF="http://frankbi.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/an-algorithm-based-on-algorithms/http://frankbi.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/an-algorithm-based-on-algorithms/" REL="nofollow">an algorithm based on AlGorithms</A>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-73915070106067867062007-08-17T19:58:00.000-04:002007-08-17T19:58:00.000-04:00Thanks for article!Thanks for article!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91580493779968552032007-07-21T14:37:00.000-04:002007-07-21T14:37:00.000-04:00In other Al Gore is Correct News:Video book report...In other Al Gore is Correct News:<BR/><BR/>Video book report on THE ASSAULT ON REASON:<BR/><BR/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=P6nTAR2MVYQ<BR/><BR/>Please spread it around!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1480026628958929782007-07-19T20:36:00.000-04:002007-07-19T20:36:00.000-04:00Ten percent would be asking for way too much...and...Ten percent would be asking for way too much.<BR/>..and it's not just FOX. It's the whole mainstream media in the US.<BR/><BR/>If our media would hold Bush and Cheney responsible for even 1% of the stuff they have done over the past 6 years, they would be in jail -- all of them, including the journalists, since they have been complicit in everything that has happened.<BR/><BR/>I am convinced that all it takes to be a journalist these days is a degree in "communications", political "science" or some other such rubbish and a willingness to suck up to your boss (both literally and figuratively)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-35249211156133406662007-07-19T13:28:00.000-04:002007-07-19T13:28:00.000-04:00the latest "hate Al Gore" psychoses from right-win...the latest "hate Al Gore" psychoses from right-wing Repukes in the US is over his daughter's Chilean Sea Bass at her wedding reception dinner. This was headline news for the usual right-wing blogs, Faux News, etc. Of course, the truth/retraction is printed (or not) way in the back, namely, it was sustainably grown Chilean Sea Bass and not from the illicit, open ocean stocks.<BR/><BR/>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/07/19/eagore119.xml<BR/><BR/>Don't you wish these idiots would hold up Bush & Cheney to at least 10% of the scrutiny & standards they do Al Gore?<BR/><BR/>-- CarlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-44377625065734097562007-07-14T16:37:00.000-04:002007-07-14T16:37:00.000-04:00I visited Glacier park in 1984 and and again in 20...I visited Glacier park in 1984 and and again in 2004, both times doing extensive hiking in the back country.<BR/><BR/>And I noticed profound changes in the glaciers from my first visit to the next.<BR/><BR/>With many of the glaciers there and elsewhere, it is not the retreat itself that is most significant. <BR/><BR/>It is the pace of retreat -- and the fact that it is accelerating, in so many cases.<BR/><BR/>Same with the ice sheet changes that are occurring. <BR/><BR/>And same with the overall warming. It is not just the magnitude of the warming that is important, but the fact that it is happening so quickly.<BR/><BR/>Many plants and animals are incapable of adapting quickly enough and will simply go extinct. <BR/><BR/>Even humans may have trouble adapting (and quickly enough) to some of the changes.<BR/><BR/>That's not alarmism. That's fact.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-4793251601519679502007-07-14T15:01:00.000-04:002007-07-14T15:01:00.000-04:00Boyles doesn't have anything substantive to say ab...Boyles doesn't have anything substantive to say about Grinnell Glacier, but I helped do repeat photography of the glacier in 2005. The glacier, like most others, is continuing to retreat long after the post-1850 warming. Trying to pin its retreat on a post-1850 natural warming is ridiculous.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-72546430415118724682007-07-13T19:24:00.000-04:002007-07-13T19:24:00.000-04:00Sans papers, I fear that you sir, with the possibl...Sans papers, I fear that you sir, with the possible exception that you taught at Philips [sic], Deerfield, an exam school or the equivalent, are blowing smoke."<BR/><BR/>Isn't Phillips (note that there ar two L's -- count them, one two) the school that graduated George Dumbya Bush?<BR/><BR/>You know, our first (and hopefully last) President with the IQ of a sea urchin.<BR/><BR/>They must have very high standards at Phillips if they graduate Bush. Yes indeed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76552996722535758282007-07-13T15:30:00.000-04:002007-07-13T15:30:00.000-04:00Munin: Yes, you got that right. Should not surpris...Munin: Yes, you got that right. Should not surprise you though, as I have said the same thing for 15 years now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-80884805063025499272007-07-13T13:50:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:50:00.000-04:00an AlGorithm was a method by which votes were coun...an AlGorithm was a method by which votes were counted by Florida election computers in 2000.'<BR/><BR/>But wouldn't Gore have won if they had used an Algorithm to count the votes?<BR/><BR/>I thought they used African Bushmen Counting. You know, where you put the beans under the cups and move them around or <A HREF="http://mtcs.truman.edu/~thammond/history/TallySystems.html" REL="nofollow">make notches on the bones</A> of deceased Democrats, one notch for each Gore vote and ten (or was it 20?) for each Bush vote.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52987751318125380822007-07-13T12:57:00.000-04:002007-07-13T12:57:00.000-04:00"Unsurprisingly, as a group, it is not clear that ..."Unsurprisingly, as a group, it is not clear that economists understand the science as well as they need to, or have as much agreement on economic policy as climate scientists do on the science."<BR/><BR/>It is clear to me that they don't and that they never will.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>The old saw about asking 10 economists about the best approach and getting 11 (or is it 12?) different answers is as applicable in this case as in any other.<BR/><BR/>I find it particularly humorous when economists criticize climate scientists for the "uncertainty" of their estimates (eg, on the CO2 sensitivity).<BR/><BR/>The only thing certain about economic predictions/projections is that the vast majority of them will be wrong -- and the one (out of millions) that is right will be held up as an indication of how prescient economic predictions are.<BR/><BR/>The guy/gal who made the prediction will be worshiped as a sage , even though he/she will most likely never again be right (but with some luck, they will make their correct prediction at the beginning of their career and it will be confirmed just when they are being considered for tenure)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57491320889467491912007-07-13T12:23:00.000-04:002007-07-13T12:23:00.000-04:001) Do good science.2) Do good economics, informed ...1) Do good science.<BR/>2) Do good economics, informed by 1).<BR/><BR/>We're going to need both. Unsurprisingly, as a group, it is not clear that economists understand the science as well as they need to, or have as much agreement on economic policy as climate scientists do on the science.<BR/><BR/>re: China, sulfur, etc.<BR/>Sadly, I may not visit China again, as I value my lungs. Unlike those in Europe, in California we are already seeing increasing pollution from China.<BR/><BR/>We all know sulfates temporarily/somewhat locally lower temperatures, but covering the planet with them this way would not be pleasant. When I was a kid, I lived near Pittsburgh, PA, and in the 1950s, many businessmen took an extra white shirt to change into at lunchtime, and one rarely saw the Sun. China will be worse.<BR/>No, thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-71474148000578771882007-07-13T11:40:00.000-04:002007-07-13T11:40:00.000-04:00Hmmm... AlGorithm.I told my discreet mathematics l...Hmmm... AlGorithm.<BR/><BR/>I told my discreet mathematics lecturer some years back that an AlGorithm was a method by which votes were counted by Florida election computers in 2000.<BR/><BR/>I guess you had to be at the lecture...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57927772056375774272007-07-13T05:38:00.000-04:002007-07-13T05:38:00.000-04:00Munin: I think what Tol is saying is that we need ...Munin: I think what Tol is saying is that we need to burn <I>more</I> coal, not less.<BR/><BR/>Make the skies a uniform gray worldwide. That'll cool things down right quickly.<BR/><BR/>Better yet, nuke the Amazon rain forest with a Gazillaton Bomb <I>and</I> repeat the process on a regular basis ("Floss, twice daily") at unannounced forest locations throughout the world.<BR/><BR/>The possibilities are endless.<BR/><BR/>PS: Here's a koan for you. <BR/><BR/>How do you use water more efficiently when there is none of it left to use? (ie, if the glaciers of the Himalayas that feed the Ganges disappear entirely due to warming)<BR/><BR/>PPS: I sure rest easy at night knowing that we have latter-day Einsteins working to find a solution to this problem.<BR/><BR/>My guess is if there is a way to screw things up worse than we already have, they'll find it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-26518346617998326202007-07-13T04:41:00.000-04:002007-07-13T04:41:00.000-04:00Hi Richard, can I just make sure I understand what...Hi Richard, can I just make sure I understand what you're saying: the earth is warming, this warming is caused (at least in part) by human GHG emissions and partially masked by SO2 emissions, and reducing GHG emissions will have benefits in the long-term - have I got that right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41932087393801719842007-07-13T03:29:00.000-04:002007-07-13T03:29:00.000-04:00Note how Gore changed the meaning and significance...Note how Gore changed the meaning and significance by replacing "water" with "drinking water".<BR/><BR/>Most of the water is actually for irrigation, and a lot of irrigation water is wasted. It may be cheaper and more effective to increase water efficiency than energy efficiency.<BR/><BR/>Note also the emphasis on the impacts over the next few decades -- and how that is used to justify emission reduction. Unfortunately, the benefits of emission reduction will not be felt over the next few decades but only later. Worse, there is now so much sulphur over Asia, that a rapid switch away from coal would accelerate warming over the next few decades, rather than slow it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-75370989461089560902007-07-13T00:32:00.000-04:002007-07-13T00:32:00.000-04:00bjc:Sorry, at 15 I took science completely serious...bjc:<BR/><BR/>Sorry, at 15 I took science completely seriously. I would never in a million years have passed on even something i thought made my political POV look better in that form (writing in my own lines of a graph and not bothering with whether it was right).<BR/><BR/>The real question is, did Ryan the what, 6-year-old in Australia do a better job than Kristen?<BR/><BR/>But I will add that, while I did lots of science papers for my various AP science classes, none I can recall were in areas of controversy. It was all basic stuff.Marion Delgadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09493068399042656060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-16313748159416324272007-07-12T22:30:00.000-04:002007-07-12T22:30:00.000-04:00Sans papers, I fear that you sir, with the possibl...Sans papers, I fear that you sir, with the possible exception that you taught at Philips, Deerfield, an exam school or the equivalent, are blowing smoke."<BR/><BR/>Spare me the BS, will you?<BR/><BR/>I suspect that even <I>you</I> could have learned something in my class.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-65508712138155245102007-07-12T22:27:00.000-04:002007-07-12T22:27:00.000-04:00Eli thinks Tol is using Byrne as a stick to beat G...Eli thinks Tol is using Byrne as a stick to beat Gore and Stern. A sort of let you and her fight tactic that Big City Lib has broken through.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-89486587505408532582007-07-12T22:26:00.000-04:002007-07-12T22:26:00.000-04:00Sorry guys, I don't think we want to go there.Sorry guys, I don't think we want to go there.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-28409355334123332072007-07-12T22:14:00.000-04:002007-07-12T22:14:00.000-04:0012:44OK, show me the papers. Sans papers, I fear ...12:44<BR/>OK, show me the papers. Sans papers, I fear that you sir, with the possible exception that you taught at Philips, Deerfield, an exam school or the equivalent, are blowing smoke.<BR/>I am not letting her off the hook, read my post. However, it doesn't take much to pile on to a 15 year old.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69347419435021379882007-07-12T21:36:00.000-04:002007-07-12T21:36:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-7754716753305334592007-07-12T20:02:00.000-04:002007-07-12T20:02:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-84051932790492563072007-07-12T17:50:00.000-04:002007-07-12T17:50:00.000-04:00Is Tol really defending Byrne in any serious way?"...Is Tol really defending Byrne in any serious way?"<BR/><BR/>I'd guess that only Tol knows the true significance of what he is says. <BR/><BR/>I was trained as a scientist (physicist) and I've tried to figure out some of the stuff he has said (here and elsewhere) and I can't make heads or tails of most of it. <BR/><BR/>But that's what economists seem to be best at -- making other people's heads spin.<BR/><BR/>You see, if you can make a person's head spin fast enough, they won't notice when things don't turn out the way you predicted they would.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85639587377697180762007-07-12T17:20:00.000-04:002007-07-12T17:20:00.000-04:00Is Tol really defending Byrne in any serious way? ...Is Tol really defending Byrne in any serious way? All I saw was a rather vague assertion that she had pricked holes in Gore, but he didn't say anything specfic, which was wise of himWilliam M. Connolleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05836299130680534926noreply@blogger.com