tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post3911590464343809585..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Canute Sets π = 3EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-90884295453306183842012-05-29T20:22:56.797-04:002012-05-29T20:22:56.797-04:00Writing in less haste I should have followed Vicou...Writing in less haste I should have followed Vicount Monckton's example in referring to seekers after free waterfront real estate erosion insurance as 'subsidy junkies' rather than the insufficiently inflammatory 'rent seekers.' as it is he who first wrote of the campaign to save the Ravenscraig ironworks:<br /><br />"The Scots are subsidy junkies whingeing like a trampled bagpipe as they wait for their next fix of English taxpayers' money."THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52384846165113964862012-05-29T13:51:58.913-04:002012-05-29T13:51:58.913-04:00"Both self-delusions based on determining a t..."Both self-delusions based on determining a trend from far too short a time period and failure to take into account all factors."<br /><br />That sentence could be written either in haste or merely disingenuously.Jeffrey Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17966839006518642902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18968665430030016972012-05-29T13:13:26.820-04:002012-05-29T13:13:26.820-04:00It should embarrass Reason subscribers to see The...It should embarrass <i>Reason</i> subscribers to see <i>The American Spectator </i> , <i> The Weekly Standard</i> and <i>National Review </i> acting as free or paypola billboards for a new species of RINO- coastal real estate and insurance rent seekers who simultaneously demand the right to build on sand and free sand replacement at Federal expense.THE CLIMATE WARShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02578106673226403151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-92151222830737390042012-05-28T12:23:50.268-04:002012-05-28T12:23:50.268-04:00Waldo wrote: "The temperature trend is at the...Waldo wrote: "The temperature trend is at the low end of IPCC projections and decelerating."<br /><br />Self-delusion number one.<br /><br />And: "current trends yields a sea level rise quite similar to the twentieth centuries."<br /><br />Self-delusion number two.<br /><br />Both self-delusions based on determining a trend from far too short a time period and failure to take into account all factors.Jim Eagernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15342109092110896552012-05-28T11:19:06.153-04:002012-05-28T11:19:06.153-04:00This fits with the general premise that they want ...This fits with the general premise that they want the eroding beaches to be <a href="http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=24918.0" rel="nofollow">renourished </a>, but do not want to pay for it with local dollars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22112587839787465022012-05-28T01:40:21.826-04:002012-05-28T01:40:21.826-04:00Fixed??Fixed??EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-32208354518547775822012-05-28T01:12:35.481-04:002012-05-28T01:12:35.481-04:00wha'happen to that atricle? strikeout overrun...wha'happen to that atricle? strikeout overrun?<br /><br />Aside -- seen this?<br />http://reviewcanada.ca/essays/2011/05/01/our-own-ancient-mariner/Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34471470469266357412012-05-28T00:19:24.544-04:002012-05-28T00:19:24.544-04:00It's all your fault, dbostrom. You made me lo...It's all your fault, dbostrom. You made me look!<br /><br />I get the vague impression that sections 3, 4 and 5 are a tacit admission that certain areas require, shall we say, more realistic SLR considerations. <br /><br />On the other hand, section 2 seems to bar the various civil engineering authorities from saying anything out loud about structural requirements for roads, bridges, drainage systems that are expected to be in service for 30, 50, 100 years - basement parking, anyone? <br /><br />I presume it's only an indelicate loudmouth who'd have the temerity to ask about their local sewage processing facility and where the 'water' will go when it's overtopped. <br /><br />MinniesMumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-35474647140574454052012-05-27T23:06:29.739-04:002012-05-27T23:06:29.739-04:00Flood planning is concerned with reasonable, worst...Flood planning is concerned with reasonable, worst case scenarios, almost be definition. Even one meter isn't a reasonable worst case scenario by 2100.<br /><br />My water district uses 55 inches SLR by 2100 on the somewhat optimistic assumption from several years ago that it's the reasonable worst case scenario.<br /><br />Also, I found this in the legislation:<br /><br />"(f) Any State agency, board, commission, institution, or other public entity thereof and <br />any county, municipality, or other local public body that develops a policy addressing sea-level <br />rise that includes a rate of sea-level rise shall use only the rates of sea-level rise developed by <br />the Division of Coastal Management as approved by the Commission. If the Commission has not approved a sea-level rise rate, then the sea-level rise policy shall not use a rate of sea-level<br />rise."<br /><br /><br />They're also trying to shut down more realistic local governments from taking matters into their own hands. Someone might also use this to screw up an inland city greenhouse gas policy that references a realistic SLR.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09301230860904555513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-73779178085295172742012-05-27T23:05:41.419-04:002012-05-27T23:05:41.419-04:00Vinny, can funding sea level research be policy? C...Vinny, can funding sea level research be policy? Could "we fund sea level research" be a policy statement?<br /><br />The legislation is nonsense, written by the nonsensical. Expect it to be interpreted nonsensically. <br /><br />For the curious, the whole bill can be read here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.nccoast.org/uploads/documents/CRO/2012-5/SLR-bill.pdf" rel="nofollow">NC HB819</a>dbostromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13885863615343906724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22464929477355267892012-05-27T21:35:01.479-04:002012-05-27T21:35:01.479-04:00Global Warming - Cato Institute
"Sell Me Your...Global Warming - Cato Institute<br />"Sell Me Your Beach House, Please!," by Patrick J. Michaels April 13, 2011.Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-75840345502332502242012-05-27T21:31:49.420-04:002012-05-27T21:31:49.420-04:00" one meter rise by 2010."
Odds are you..." one meter rise by 2010."<br /><br />Odds are you mean 2100.<br /><br />"A one meter (39 inch rise) is considered likely in that it only requires that the linear relationship between temperature and sea level that was noted in the 20th century remains valid for the 21st century (Rahmstorf, 2007)."<br /><br />Well, it also depends upon what the actual temperature trend turns out to be, que no?<br />(plus whatever remaining groundwater we can dump into the oceans).<br /><br />The temperature trend is at the low end of IPCC projections and decelerating.<br /><br />Nature is subject to change without notice, but current trends<br />yields a sea level rise quite similar to the twentieth centuries.<br /><br />WaldoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-62796746851785337182012-05-27T21:21:53.768-04:002012-05-27T21:21:53.768-04:00for the Coastal Resources Commission that forecast...<i>for the Coastal Resources Commission that forecast a one meter rise by 2010.</i><br />probably needs repairing to <b>2100</b>.David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81535029668208862372012-05-27T21:06:14.934-04:002012-05-27T21:06:14.934-04:00J Bowers. Not just on the left!
There's muc...J Bowers. Not just on the left! <br /><br />There's much delightful reading in store if you just scroll down. I was particularly taken by the "Core of Engineers". Disappointingly this turned out to be Houston & Dean rather than a spoof military site. <br /><br />I've not bothered to link to the 4 contributions from one D Burton, nor to assorted predictable others. <br /><br />There is a link to a NOAA study design with these parameters. <br /><br />1.What changes to coastal flooding hazards will possibly occur between 2009 and 2100 as a result of changes in storminess and sea level (with assessments at interim time steps of 2025, 2050, and 2075)? <br />2.What built and living systems will be exposed to coastal flooding from changes in storminess and sea-level rise?<br />3.What possible impacts and/or consequences will occur on the exposed built and living systems?<br />4.What short- and long-term strategies will result in efficient and effective prevention and/or alleviation of exposure and consequences from changes in storminess and sea-level rise?<br /><br />This of course has provoked a nervous response .... "we will be watching this one closely for some of the same problems we encountered with the recent Science Panel recommendations." <br /><br />MinniesMumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-10482347636402610442012-05-27T20:31:48.698-04:002012-05-27T20:31:48.698-04:00a-ray spotted who's involved in this, over at ...a-ray spotted who's involved in this, over at the NC-20 website (look to the left with his own special button). Think 'mathturbator'.J Bowersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-82107444964337810852012-05-27T20:04:28.384-04:002012-05-27T20:04:28.384-04:00I don't think it does, dbostrom. Those portion...I don't think it does, dbostrom. Those portions of the bill are all about policies, not research.<br /><br />It is an odd bill, though. 1m seems a fairly sensible cutoff for a region with sinking land.<br /><br />What's the purpose of the bit about data from the 'time period following 1900'? Are the authors trying to pre-empt attempts to use scary rates of past SLR in NC? It surely can't be an attempt to limit allowable data to the period 'circa 1900', as the HuffPo report said. For one thing, the earliest trendworthy data in the original report was from 1933.Vinny Burgoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13830703358571312302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22413619395892362502012-05-27T17:53:19.651-04:002012-05-27T17:53:19.651-04:00A strict reading of the bill would imply that not ...A strict reading of the bill would imply that not only will building codes be affected but also university researchers will not be permitted to investigate sea level change, if by "state institution" we include NC universities. <br /><br />"Here's mud in your eyes!"dbostromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13885863615343906724noreply@blogger.com