tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post3557200923804734726..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40688738491860629132009-10-21T23:35:42.160-04:002009-10-21T23:35:42.160-04:00"and anyway [SO2] leave untouched ocean acidi..."and anyway [SO2] leave untouched ocean acidification"<br /><br /><br />That's completely false!!!<br /><br />The SO2 rains down over the oceans as H2SO4, therefore completly settling the acidification question._Arthurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00784501862357079857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-5834926113203765422009-10-21T19:03:06.196-04:002009-10-21T19:03:06.196-04:00BJ, so the next question is, WHO is going to be si...BJ, so the next question is, WHO is going to be sitting at the control panel? Or will there be 5 control panels in separate 'major powers', each trying to adjust the climate to some optimum value for THEIR interests (whatever those interests happen to be). Things could get messy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91606405347301100452009-10-21T09:41:55.979-04:002009-10-21T09:41:55.979-04:00http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/aciddepositi...http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/aciddeposition13inpress.pdf<br /><br />still a bad idea...Magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617272924116099306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-42781506002324970872009-10-21T05:37:05.610-04:002009-10-21T05:37:05.610-04:00bjchip says:
True Magnus. I omitted that and I s...bjchip says:<br /><br />True Magnus. I omitted that and I should not have. I reckon that the timeline plays something like this. <br /><br />For the next decade or so the denialists and delayers continue to stonewall things and keep progress to a minimum. The CO2 goes over 400 the system continues to push and stuff starts to break. Not sure what... droughts, heat-waves in summer... famines, actual measurable acceleration in the sea-level changes. Something profound that gets Joe Six-Pack off his couch. He starts to look for where the delayers live. <br /><br />By 2030 the effects are undeniable and people are getting seriously hurt. The delayers and deniers have been strung up from the nearest tree or run out of town on a rail, suitably tarred and feathered. The CO2 has hit 430 or so, and feedbacks are starting to take it completely out of our hands even though the cost of carbon credits has hit $1000 a ton and we're doing (finally) what we should have started doing ten years ago. <br /><br />At this point we push a bunch of balloons or mirrors or whatever is required into position to alter the power of the sun that is reaching the planet's surface. This allows us to lower the temperature while we and Mother Nature work to clean up and sequester the CO2 again. <br /><br />When the CO2 level gets sane we turn the mirrors sideways just enough to let the planet's energy balance achieve stability again. <br /><br />That's the whole story. I don't think we get effective changes in emissions behaviour until the public realizes the dimensions and dementia of the lies. <br /><br />respectfully <br />BJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-6652863279829440342009-10-21T04:31:45.328-04:002009-10-21T04:31:45.328-04:00Nah, no global Ghengis Khan. Just a nucular power ...Nah, no global Ghengis Khan. Just a nucular power with the necessary hardware, and a thick skin (can you say 'missile defense'?).<br /><br />But then, perhaps this <em>is</em> a global Ghengis Khan.Martin Vermeerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04537045395760606324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-7480060895747856172009-10-21T02:27:07.396-04:002009-10-21T02:27:07.396-04:00How come so few mentions Acid rain? http://en.wiki...How come so few mentions Acid rain? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_rain<br /><br />We up north like our unbuffered lakes just as they are....Magnushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01617272924116099306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11532430358532443792009-10-21T01:57:10.827-04:002009-10-21T01:57:10.827-04:00bjchip said:
Of them all, the "venetian blin...bjchip said:<br /><br />Of them all, the "venetian blinds in space" (or something else in space) is most easily reversed. You know it will work on SOME scale because it directly affects the insolation. What's the scale? Not known. Degree of difficulty is large but manageable.<br /><br /> Since it isn't a "fixed" system you can move whatever problems come up around so everyone shares - ain't that sweet? :-) <br /><br />Need for Ghengis Khan (or Josef Stalin) to pull it off? Acceptable at that point, and a bargain even if despotism reigns for a thousand years... but one would hope we manage it a bit better than that... and I think we can. <br /><br />Without the Black Helicopters. <br /><br />Damned if I know how ELSE we're going to get an 80% reduction by 2050. <br /><br />Global Thermonuclear War maybe? We have no talent for anything else as a species. <br /><br />If one considers it a ecological IQ test, we're failing. <br /><br />respectfully <br />BJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com