tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post3295378140649696503..comments2024-03-18T03:27:18.777-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: RequiemEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger118125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83428617341596181202013-04-01T10:56:40.280-04:002013-04-01T10:56:40.280-04:00I see normal conditions in US gun culture continue...I see normal conditions in US gun culture continue: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/31/1198262/-Armed-TX-Prosecutor-Wife-Assassinated-NRA-Silent-on-How-This-is-PossibleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-19329960952130742232013-02-01T05:47:37.171-05:002013-02-01T05:47:37.171-05:00Once you get some regulation on the guns, here...Once you get some regulation on the guns, here's for a comparison, the frequency of (legal) private guns in Finland by municipalities:<br /> http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/karttajuttu3101MH_uu.jpg<br /><br />very unsurprisingly areas with more forests are also more gunny :-P (moose hunt). The Åland islands is explained by the waterfowl hunt (waters keep open the longest time).<br /><br />Actually I'm a bit surprised for the cities aren't showing out well here but then many cities have also rural areas here.jyyhhttp://erimaassa.blogspot.finoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-36092090064315021252013-01-04T05:11:21.293-05:002013-01-04T05:11:21.293-05:00http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cr...http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/crime/2012/12/gun_death_tally_every_american_gun_death_since_newtown_sandy_hook_shooting.html<br /><br />It seems men are about 7 times more likely to get shot in the US than women. Is there a similar statistics on the gun users in homicides and suicides? Of particular interest migt be the level of children gun users in these cases.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-31848049150436696852012-12-27T23:19:44.919-05:002012-12-27T23:19:44.919-05:00And a_ray_in_dumbass_space contributes nothing, as...And a_ray_in_dumbass_space contributes nothing, as usual.<br /><br />Tell me a_ray what is it like living in dumb ass space and fantasizing that you live your life inside the "reality" of a comic strip? LMAO What an idiot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85283989700801997542012-12-27T21:03:07.110-05:002012-12-27T21:03:07.110-05:00The verdict is in: Anonytroll is simply dumber th...The verdict is in: Anonytroll is simply dumber than owlshit.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-56894939608681249872012-12-27T20:06:53.162-05:002012-12-27T20:06:53.162-05:00"I think talk about how biased liberals might..."I think talk about how biased liberals might or might not be pales in comparison to this, don't you."<br /><br /><br />No.<br /><br /><br />When is David Gregory going to be arrested?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-77693679677540429962012-12-27T16:59:44.338-05:002012-12-27T16:59:44.338-05:00I feel significantly less safe after reading comme...I feel significantly less safe after reading comments from some haters who feel they have an infinite right to be armed. I call it hate because the thought processes are so garbled and prejudiced. Somebody reference the NYTimes article on how the NRA influences judge selection, including Sotomayor and Kagan, with very little basis. Here are a few excerpts of the illuminating language:<br /><br />"Instead of majority rule, we have minority totalitarianism....<br />"It's about racketeering. It's about special interest groups using extortion to get their political way. All this being done under the protection of the first amendment....<br />"The NRA operates like an organized crime syndicate. That is the deeper issue and is what causes me to fear for my freedom, and everyone else's. (I define freedom as one's ability to live, not kill dozens in one minute.)" <br /><br />The above was a comment; here's some more from the main article:<br />"Senator Mitch McConnell ... to shore up his caucus, ... asked a favor of his friends at the National Rifle Association: oppose the Sotomayor nomination and, furthermore, “score” the confirmation vote. An interest group “scores” a vote when it adds the vote on a particular issue to the legislative scorecard it gives each member of Congress at the end of the session. In many states, an N.R.A. score of less than 100 for an incumbent facing re-election is big trouble.<br /><br />"Note that the N.R.A. had never before scored a judicial confirmation vote. Note also that Sonia Sotomayor had no record on the N.R.A.’s issues. .... The N.R.A. had all the reason it needed to oppose Sonia Sotomayor: maintenance of its symbiotic relationship with the Republican Party. Once it announced its opposition and its intention to score the vote, Republican support for the nominee melted away. ....<br /><br />"The following year, after the N.R.A. opposed Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court and announced that “this vote matters and will be part of future candidate evaluations,” Republican support for another nominee without a record on gun issues shrank to five senators.<br /><br />"At least Supreme Court confirmation debates take place in the light of day. Members of the public can tune in and decide whether they are persuaded that Elena Kagan represents “a clear a present danger to the right to keep and bear arms,” to quote the N.R.A.’s statement of opposition to her nomination. (Justice Kagan had never owned or shot a gun, but since joining the court has taken lessons and gone hunting with Justice Antonin Scalia, pronouncing the experience “kind of fun.”)"<br /><br />It gets worse: more at:<br />opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/the-n-r-a-at-the-bench/<br /><br />I think talk about how biased liberals might or might not be pales in comparison to this, don't you.<br /> susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829151452002682271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76417362694528134362012-12-27T01:00:50.292-05:002012-12-27T01:00:50.292-05:00It was the guns fault.
"William Spengler, 62...It was the guns fault.<br /><br />"William Spengler, 62, has a history of brutality against his family. In July 1980, he beat his 92-year-old grandmother Rose Spengler to death with a hammer. He served 17 years in prison after pleading guilty to manslaughter. He was released in 1998."<br /><br />Here we see Dhog is full of crap and wrong once again. The guy pleaded guilty to manslaughter in an obvious bargain with our weak liberal justice system. It never went to a jury.<br /><br /><br />Ah the ole manslaughter with a hammer, nah this guy was not violent. Nah this guy did not benefit from lax enforcement and a punishment matching the crime.<br /><br /><br />This is Dhog's poster boy of why we should have more gun laws, because this model citizen would have followed stricter gun laws.<br /><br /><br />Dhog does this guy look like you? I imagine this is kinda of what you look like.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9780476895601990812012-12-27T00:47:11.458-05:002012-12-27T00:47:11.458-05:00Dhog and Anon are glad man is released after killi...Dhog and Anon are glad man is released after killing grandmother so he could kill again. If onl;y it was illegal for this man to have a gun maybe those firefighters would be alive, oh wait.<br /><br /><br />Remember criminals, Dhog and other liberals find it ok for you to kill, just get a manslaughter charge serve some time and come back and kill again, it makes them happy.<br /><br /><br /><br />Meanwhile liberals are also complaining that laws should not be for them, because they are above the laws they are wanting to enforce upon the rest of us. If David Gregory was Joe Sixgun he would be arrested.<br /><br /><br />Another day in bizarro liberal world, good for thee but not for me liberal "logic".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11096190140142431762012-12-27T00:05:09.877-05:002012-12-27T00:05:09.877-05:00"It's a pity he killed himself, now we ca..."It's a pity he killed himself, now we can't execute him, because of liberal."<br /><br />Pesonally, I think this trend of killing oneself after killing others is cowardice. I'd much rather see thm face court and sentece.<br /><br />I have non idea regarding "because of liberal" clause.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40027852379720066722012-12-27T00:02:47.930-05:002012-12-27T00:02:47.930-05:00"I see the two above are glad this guy got ou..."I see the two above are glad this guy got out so he could kill again."<br /><br />No, we just pointed out that he was convicted of manslaughter, not murder, by a jury of his peers.<br /><br />Your disgust is matched by my disgust that you weren't put to death for jaywalking, or going 1 mph over the posted speed limit, or entering an intersection on a yellow light, etc.<br /><br />Because you apparently think that all crimes deserve the death penalty.<br /><br />Just for your eductation, which you obviously aren't interesting, distinctions between manslaughter and murder go far, far back in English law, long before those who were in charge of administrating it could be accused of being "liberal" in the modern american sense.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-11551401082493790042012-12-26T23:45:49.798-05:002012-12-26T23:45:49.798-05:00It's a pity he killed himself, now we can'...It's a pity he killed himself, now we can't execute him, because of liberal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-52399437649596555122012-12-26T20:10:34.879-05:002012-12-26T20:10:34.879-05:00I see the two above are glad this guy got out so h...I see the two above are glad this guy got out so he could kill again.<br /><br /><br />I'd golf clap but my disgust keeps getting in the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81015819317327218822012-12-26T17:25:01.104-05:002012-12-26T17:25:01.104-05:00And he served 17 years, which is considerably long...And he served 17 years, which is considerably longer than the 11 years 10 months average term.Rattus Norvegicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03449457204330125792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-18306360288966043272012-12-26T16:31:32.537-05:002012-12-26T16:31:32.537-05:00"The guy murdered his grandmother and the lib..."The guy murdered his grandmother and the liberal crime policies let him out after 17 years and as if by magic he kills again."<br /><br />A jury of his peers convicted him of nothing more serious than manslaughter. I suppose in anon's fevered mind all of those jurors were "liberals". I imagine anon's solution is to condemn all criminals to death, for instance, jaywalkers ...<br /><br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40131473396734703722012-12-26T12:07:32.963-05:002012-12-26T12:07:32.963-05:00^ Ah but the liberal lax policies of letting murde...^ Ah but the liberal lax policies of letting murders out after 17 years has no bearing on this incident, right?<br /><br />The guy murdered his grandmother and the liberal crime policies let him out after 17 years and as if by magic he kills again. If only he had been sentenced to death, got one or two appeals and was put down, those firefighters would be alive.<br /><br />More blood on the liberals hands.<br /><br /><br />Hmm this game is fun, unfortunately nothing about this is fun and the continual blaming of an inanimate object for the actions of people will doom our society further into chaos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-8563836128675454782012-12-25T01:50:51.893-05:002012-12-25T01:50:51.893-05:00(sarcastic comment will follow, hello, crowd at ec...(sarcastic comment will follow, hello, crowd at echelon) the defenders of the free use of guns scored yet another victory against institutions: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57560719/4-firefighters-shot-2-dead-in-upstate-n.y/<br />It seems you are back in the normal level of gun violence so the 20 something dead children did have an effect. The teachers shot were of course part of the institution so they do not count.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-46095056687104442022012-12-22T18:52:21.379-05:002012-12-22T18:52:21.379-05:00Hey, here's a thought.
The 2nd Amendment, as ...Hey, here's a thought.<br /><br />The 2nd Amendment, as I understand it, is designed to allow the citizens to defend themselves against a tyrannical government.<br /><br />What are the odds that if tyrannical government did come to pass, that the NRA would come out in full, vociferous and belligerent support of it?<br /><br />I think the odds would be pretty short, frankly.<br /><br />How ironic would that be?<br />Gaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-39837693855425475212012-12-21T20:19:03.496-05:002012-12-21T20:19:03.496-05:00Anonymous @21/12/12 8:45 AM:
"All the others...Anonymous @21/12/12 8:45 AM:<br /><br />"All the others who were blaming me and trying to define me as some right wing gun loving nut job with blood on his hands can take your anger, your hate, and your single mindedness and well you know..."<br /><br />So who are you? For all we know, you're being blamed for what some other anonymous troll said. You could undersign your comments with a moniker, like some others here do, without creating a permanent identity. <br /><br />OK: was this your first comment on this post, @17/12/12 1:44 PM, responding to John Mashey?<br /><br />"Your ignorance of guns is astounding.<br /><br />Your ignorance in general is astounding."<br /><br />If that was you, then you may not be "some right wing gun loving nut job with blood on his hands", but you're self-evidently an angry person yourself, who has a single-minded hate for Dr. Mashey. <br /><br />If it wasn't you, then give us some way to distinguish you from that other anonymous troll. No matter who you are, you're responsible for the impression your words create. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog, but everyone can see you're a jerk. It's not up to us to give you the benefit of any doubt. Mal Adaptedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123525780458234978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-38882794789682358852012-12-21T11:49:11.523-05:002012-12-21T11:49:11.523-05:00> And it has to be made over and over and over ...> And it has to be made over and over and over again.<br /><br />Why?<br /><br />I'm less sure about the "has to be" than the "it", and the "it" is not that clear.<br />willardhttp://neverendingaudit.tumblr.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-53092005851719133662012-12-21T11:45:25.544-05:002012-12-21T11:45:25.544-05:00" would say it is incumbent on you to develop..." would say it is incumbent on you to develop solutions to address the problems created by unrestricted access to firearms. I'm waiting"<br /><br /><br />Where is there unrestricted access?<br /><br /><br /><br />Eli I agree the California gun laws are a good model for the nation and I would support a national push on those. Thank you. Now while that is in the works I think some national discussion to get local communities to increase police patrol or hire private security needs to also happen. A revisist on identifying people with mental health issues and their too easy access to guns.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I do not agree that ammunition should only be obtainable at the range.<br /><br /><br />All the others who were blaming me and trying to define me as some right wing gun loving nut job with blood on his hands can take your anger, your hate, and your single mindedness and well you know...<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-81667227597707111962012-12-20T23:55:22.722-05:002012-12-20T23:55:22.722-05:00Thanks, Mal Adapted, that was exactly the point I ...Thanks, Mal Adapted, that was exactly the point I was making.<br /><br />And it has to be made over and over and over again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-30189435969933315472012-12-20T22:49:19.840-05:002012-12-20T22:49:19.840-05:00Complete ban on ammunition except at the gun range...Complete ban on ammunition except at the gun range.David B. Bensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02917182411282836875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-73608813356132062652012-12-20T21:44:32.866-05:002012-12-20T21:44:32.866-05:00Anonymous @ 20/12/12 8:48 AM
"Bottom line: T...Anonymous @ 20/12/12 8:48 AM<br /><br />"Bottom line: The 26 victims in Newtown paid the price for your right to keep and bear arms. They and all those like them are the true cost of the Second Amendment."<br /><br />That's the most succinct statement I've yet seen, of the stark choice we as Americans face WRT the 2nd Amendment. The defenders of gun rights should be prepared to say "The lives of all the innocents killed by kooks and criminals with guns, is a price <i>I'm</i> willing to pay for <i>my</i> freedom to own them." Anyone who tries to dismiss, downplay or explain that away is a craven hypocrite. <br /><br />Anonymous troll @20/12/12 9:08 AM:<br /><br />"Ah the idiocy in that statement is endless."<br /><br />What a cute little boy. Do you actually have anything to contribute? Why don't <i>you</i> come up with a meaningful gun-control proposal, troll? Is it because you really <i>don't</i> care how many children are killed? Or is it just that you like making noise on blogs, and have chosen this one for some unfathomable reason? What will it take, then, to get you to go away so the rest of us can have a conversation?Mal Adaptedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06123525780458234978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-88738026326208954932012-12-20T21:44:16.657-05:002012-12-20T21:44:16.657-05:00Anonytroll, Actually, you've had no concrete s...Anonytroll, Actually, you've had no concrete suggestions--unless you consider the risible suggestion of arming the citizenry to be a solution to the problem of grade schoolers being gunned down. <br /><br />It is you who are claiming your leisure trumps the survival of our children. I would say it is incumbent on you to develop solutions to address the problems created by unrestricted access to firearms. I'm waiting.a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.com