tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post3275807414159497527..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Eli Ups the Ante - But In a Nice WayEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-68776033028992391362011-03-23T11:20:51.822-04:002011-03-23T11:20:51.822-04:00Speaking of wind mills, think about an alternate e...Speaking of wind mills, think about an alternate energy post. There is a lot of common ground and common mis-perceptions I would love to see discussed from your side :).Recovering in the Florida Keyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07913299764512464597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-41423827271248841672011-03-23T10:39:32.636-04:002011-03-23T10:39:32.636-04:00Fighting for windmills perhaps:)?Fighting for windmills perhaps:)?EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1865428098608505702011-03-23T09:44:02.868-04:002011-03-23T09:44:02.868-04:00Journalist, Churnalist, Expert in the field or Jur...Journalist, Churnalist, Expert in the field or Jurist Doctorate analyst, you need a divining rod (i.e. bullshit detector)if you want to be a reasonably informed member of the public.<br /><br />I applaud your effort, but you are fighting with wind mills it seems.Recovering in the Florida Keyshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07913299764512464597noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-17014726845032073542011-03-22T17:00:44.793-04:002011-03-22T17:00:44.793-04:00Then there are the cases where one doesn't nee...Then there are the cases where one doesn't need original sources or know anything to see the problems. I often seen articles, even in the NY Times where the text is directly contradicted by a graph or chart.<br /><br />NosmoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58697585830948959182011-03-22T14:54:16.454-04:002011-03-22T14:54:16.454-04:00Re John's "The same pundits who got the I...Re John's "The same pundits who got the Iraq war spectacularly wrong are still on the job."<br /><br />We need a Greasemonkey for television, that'll apply red Xs to the pundits with bad track records. Or disemvowell them...Annahttp://warming101.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-3836769277551004522011-03-21T12:42:37.192-04:002011-03-21T12:42:37.192-04:00http://www.badscience.net/2011/03/why-dont-journal...http://www.badscience.net/2011/03/why-dont-journalists-link-to-primary-sources/<br /><br />Ben Goldacre demonstrates that medical science reporting can be egregiously bad too. I look forward to the Flecks & Kloors attempting to defend these examples...<br /><br />Chris S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-9782099057429537312011-03-20T12:30:45.435-04:002011-03-20T12:30:45.435-04:00The students take many of the same courses in thei...The students take many of the same courses in their initial years and some as electives. There is more of an overlap than physics and chemistry majors and less than for chemistry majors and ChemEs. There do not appear to be departments, common for small schools and committees are probably (admittedly a guess here) a mix of school wide and program oriented.<br /><br />There is no Chinese Wall.<br /><br />As for media studies, go read your own web site<br />-----------------------------------<br />JOUR 4272-3. Public Relations. Surveys public relations in America. Includes case studies and individual projects. Same as JOUR 5272.<br /><br />JOUR 4282-3. Public Relations Programs. Develops and applies public relations programs, from identification of the problem through execution of public relations techniques. Prereq., JOUR 4272. Restricted to senior NSED majors. Same as JOUR 5282.<br />---------------------------<br /><br />And, just to be clear, Eli was not claiming the Colorado is worse than any other place, just that it is the same and this mix of folk who are dedicated to informing the public and disinforming the public is not necessarily a wonderful thing.<br /><br />The professionalization of disinformation is worrying. The fact that it occurring inside schools of communication is especially worrying, even if the boilerplate says that the force is with the faculty, there is a bad side as Darth Vader discovered. Physicists wrestled with similar issues after WWII and are still engaged.<br /><br />Eli reports, you decide. Well, ok, sometimes he drops hints.EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-89618072681131500622011-03-20T00:12:21.098-04:002011-03-20T00:12:21.098-04:00Giving awards for journalism?
The Columbia Journa...Giving awards for journalism?<br /><br />The Columbia Journalism used to give out "darts and laurels" for bad and good journalism. (Maybe they still do..)<br /><br />The media watchdog group FAIR gives out annual "P.U.-litzer prizes."<br /><br />But in general, the journalism profession does not police itself.<br />Want proof? Just check out the Sunday morning talk shows. The same pundits who got the Iraq war spectacularly wrong are still on the job. (Sole exception: Judith Miller, NYTimes).Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575837647825433144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-88866180813384214032011-03-20T00:06:19.484-04:002011-03-20T00:06:19.484-04:00Actually Eli, you've got your facts wrong. The...Actually Eli, you've got your facts wrong. The advertising sequence where I work (University of Colorado) is completely separate from the journalism sequence. We do not actually have a PR program. And we don't call all of it "media studies," which is actually a completely separate thing. Journalism students learn journalism. Advertising students learn advertising. Media Studies students (all five of them) learn about research into the media.Tom Yulsmanhttp://www.cejournal.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-12692622556272370132011-03-19T22:52:27.608-04:002011-03-19T22:52:27.608-04:00How about scientists start publicly rating journal...How about scientists start publicly rating journalists, editors and news outlets. For each of the above you could publish a league table of accuracy rate, and clarity in reporting on science issues. At the end of the year you could hand out awards for good reporting, and for bad reporting to give the journalists a hook so they can publish the results - if the dared.Tom Curtishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12952819493952635540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-43106782141269327052011-03-19T20:41:38.989-04:002011-03-19T20:41:38.989-04:00Ba-zing!Ba-zing!seamushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04299590041498402002noreply@blogger.com