tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post2992233610450432433..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Maybe Reid screwed the pooch on climate legislation in 2017, tooEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-69029798167194468762013-02-18T15:43:22.572-05:002013-02-18T15:43:22.572-05:00Mom Rabett agrees with Eli to truncate the KT Anon...Mom Rabett agrees with Eli to truncate the KT Anon tete a tete with extreme prejudice. It is in a deep bunker and may return at the Rabett Hole when Eli has access to a faster connectionEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-80501846757428569102013-02-17T20:29:40.931-05:002013-02-17T20:29:40.931-05:00KT,
When did I say I believed in God?
Just maki...KT,<br /><br />When did I say I believed in God?<br /><br /><br />Just making things up, like all your claims.<br /><br />All talk, no scorboard. In addition to being a hateful BS'er, you are a punk.<br /><br /><br />Glad you are on Eli's team. OTOH at least you are brave (dumb) enough to be blatantly open with how you feel. The other bunnies must be afraid to speak as clearly and openly as you. Since they have not disagreed with you at all, and they do like to disagree when people make stupid crazy posts, I accept taht as deep down they agree with you.<br /><br /><br />You guys at RR should make KT your Captain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34049626511184340162013-02-17T09:42:44.151-05:002013-02-17T09:42:44.151-05:00Boys (one assumes) this is already stupid and offp...Boys (one assumes) this is already stupid and offputting. Go to your corners and come out making nice - Mom RabettEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-71529676568812385192013-02-16T18:13:28.351-05:002013-02-16T18:13:28.351-05:00Can you quantify that in terms of SI units of bitt...Can you quantify that in terms of SI units of bitterness and hatefulness?<br /><br />Why should I be bitter that a bunch of hired thugs masquarading under a veil of patriotism blew through many trillions of dollars of excess taxpayer funds with impunity, instead choosing to manufacture weapons for real wars against imaginary foes and then selling them in the aftermarket to the highest bidders? Nothing wrong with that, right? It's just business! And you grunts swallow the patriotic bullshit like it was a kind of holy wine and crackers.<br /><br />I don't think it's sad at all, in fact, I view it as comedy since it was easily predictable that your behavior would eventually within decades come back and bite you in your fake patriotic red asses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-49182680500152648392013-02-16T18:05:46.113-05:002013-02-16T18:05:46.113-05:00You seem to be a very bitter and hateful person, e...You seem to be a very bitter and hateful person, especially on the military.<br /><br />Sad.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-53900405225272058632013-02-16T18:03:20.137-05:002013-02-16T18:03:20.137-05:00Just the anonymous grunts like you. The upper eche...Just the anonymous grunts like you. The upper echelons are merely bureaucrats for the military industrial complex.<br /><br /><i>you seem to be a very bitter and hateful person</i><br /><br />No, I'm just an American citizen not afraid to exercise my constitutionally guaranteed right in insult the military. I am so appreciative that you all saved us from the invading North Vietnamese airforce and navy, nipping it so nicely in the bud at the Gulf of Tonkin, just so I can enjoy my freedom from North Vietnamese rule and insult your bravery with impunity. Ditto the gulf wars.<br /><br />You want more? I've got plenty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-45605486749464149202013-02-16T17:47:13.894-05:002013-02-16T17:47:13.894-05:00I see KT really goes off his rocker and now says t...I see KT really goes off his rocker and now says the entire enlisted core of the US military are hired thugs.<br /><br />Is there not a sane voice on this site?<br /><br /><br /><br />Brian you are an elected official at this point it might be wise to come in and distance yourself from the KT comments.<br /><br /><br />Kt you seem to be a very bitter and hateful person, such a pity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-35989667575644982672013-02-16T17:33:52.344-05:002013-02-16T17:33:52.344-05:00Changing the Senate filibuster rule to get a meani...Changing the Senate filibuster rule to get a meaningful climate mitigation bill passed is far more important than any hypothetical "risk" associated with changing the rule.<br /><br />Climate change is without a doubt THE most important issue that Congress faces (and perhaps will EVER face) and if the Democrats are really serious about addressing it, they should be willing to take the risk that they might lose some battles in the future on less critical issues if they change the filibuster rule.<br /><br />~@:><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-65733053350471817622013-02-16T13:09:39.719-05:002013-02-16T13:09:39.719-05:00a_ray,
I am a veteran, my father was, his father ...a_ray,<br /><br />I am a veteran, my father was, his father was and I have a child their spouse actively serving.<br /><br />And yes the enlisted (grunts is an affectionate term for Marines who are 03 infantry btw) do care about who the President and SOD are and what they say and do.<br /><br />You may want to check the education level of enlisted personnel as a whole compared to the civilian population, it might just surprise you. The enlisted are not mindless drones you know.<br /><br /><br />"Educational Trends and Pay Targeting by DoD<br />The proportion of the enlisted force with postsecondary<br />education (some college, a two-year associate’s degree, a<br />bachelor’s degree, or higher) rose from 30 percent in<br />1985 to 74 percent in 1999 and continues to increase.<br />Among the most senior personnel—those in pay grades<br />E-8 and E-9—more than half now have at least an associate’s<br />degree.<br />The trend toward higher educational attainment is not<br />limited to the enlisted force. In the U.S. population as a<br />whole, the proportion of high school graduates between<br />the ages of 25 and 29 with at least some postsecondary<br />education rose from 52 percent in 1990 to 66 percent in<br />2000.3 That trend is driven in part by increases in the pay<br />of workers with postsecondary education relative to the<br />pay of high school graduates."<br /><br />http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/ftpdocs/51xx/doc5108/02-23-enlistedpersonnel.pdf<br /><br /><br /><br />You're welcome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-27075820953974267802013-02-15T23:28:11.752-05:002013-02-15T23:28:11.752-05:00"Well, during the Bush years they (UCS) seeme..."Well, during the Bush years they (UCS) seemed very "concerned" about the treatment of individual scientists (and rightly so) when that treatment appeared to pervert or undermine the integrity of the scientific process (which certainly seems to apply in the case of Monnett)."<br /><br />Which agency scientist would this apply to? A cite would be nice.<br /><br />"It's worth noting that UCS (specifically the scientific integrity division) have actually NOT claimed the case falls outside their purview, only that they wished to let the IG investigation run its course."<br /><br />Which of course is totally consistent with their mission statement that they're a policy-oriented group, and not down in the nitty-gritty inter-agency fights which are, essentially, political.<br /><br />PEER is younger than the UCS. If the UCS functioned as you believe it should, PEER would have no reason to exist.<br /><br />Having a long-term background in the NGO world, this doesn't bother me a twit. NGOs tend to focus on relatively narrow areas, as they should. Just as companies should focus on what they're good at. UCS has a particular focus, PEER has another. A UCS advocate might well rant that PEER doesn't take a particular position on a particular policy, while PEER might say "as long as our members can speak out without being fired, it meets our charter".<br /><br />Nothing wrong with that.<br />4dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-83189622340801964242013-02-15T23:21:46.394-05:002013-02-15T23:21:46.394-05:00Steve Bloom:
"Maybe I'm misunderstanding...Steve Bloom:<br /><br />"Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but did you think this through all the way, dhogaza? You seem to implying that once back in power Republicans might respond to a majority vote rule change (which Merkley's proposals fell short of, but that's beside the point) by reinstituting a supermajority. Really? And how is that a problem for anyone but themselves?"<br /><br />Apparently some people think the only Senate rule worth dithering over is the filibuster, and if real reform (which I support) had been passed by simple majority rule, all would be fixed.<br /><br />I've thought through, and regarding filibuster, have more or less reached the same conclusion, which is why I said I supported Merkely's proposal.<br /><br />But, given how the current filibuster disaster was an unintended consequence of three separate Senate decisions in the past, EACH MEANT TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS, and given how it has back-fired and done the opposite, making the filibuster even more effective than it was in the ante-bellum period ...<br /><br />I think it's worthwhile to be cautious.<br /><br />I'd love for it to be fixed in some way that a simple majority can't simply revoke it, but ... if you pass it thus, it can be repealed thus, and with many other evil things attached if our modern Republican Party gets control of the Senate.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-64325801394279992122013-02-15T22:01:08.022-05:002013-02-15T22:01:08.022-05:00Anon, do you really think the grunts give a flying...Anon, do you really think the grunts give a flying fuck who the defense secretary is--or the Commander in Chief for that matter? Do you even know anyone in the military? Or are they beneath the notice of a privileged white assclam like you?a_ray_in_dilbert_spacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-23687902704187913672013-02-15T21:40:56.019-05:002013-02-15T21:40:56.019-05:00"Union of Concerned Scientists is concerned w...<i>"Union of Concerned Scientists is concerned with policy, not the internal infighting of various US and state agencies, natural resource extraction industries, and individual scientists squeezed in the middle.</i>"<br /><br />Well, during the Bush years they (UCS) seemed very "concerned" about the treatment of individual scientists (and rightly so) when that treatment appeared to pervert or undermine the integrity of the scientific process (which certainly seems to apply in the case of Monnett).<br /><br /><br />It's worth noting that UCS (specifically the scientific integrity division) have actually NOT claimed the case falls outside their purview, only that they wished to let the IG investigation run its course.<br /><br />~@:>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-44669146166905465472013-02-15T20:56:14.728-05:002013-02-15T20:56:14.728-05:00"I supported Merkley's proposals, but pas..."I supported Merkley's proposals, but passing it as had been proposed, well, future Senate mischief could've been very negative (repealing it with a simple majority vote, for starters, a few years from now)."<br /><br />Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but did you think this through all the way, dhogaza? You seem to implying that once back in power Republicans might respond to a majority vote rule change (which Merkley's proposals fell short of, but that's beside the point) by reinstituting a supermajority. Really? And how is that a problem for anyone but themselves?Steve Bloomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943109973917998380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-76035759812596973082013-02-15T20:22:32.717-05:002013-02-15T20:22:32.717-05:00Union of Concerned Scientists is concerned with po...Union of Concerned Scientists is concerned with policy, not the internal infighting of various US and state agencies, natural resource extraction industries, and individual scientists squeezed in the middle.<br /><br />That's why PEER was originally formed (originally to protect USFS whistleblowers during the old-growth wars in the PNW, as the result of persecution of someone on the staff of the Willamette NF who spoke out about the lies being told by the forest and the entire USFS to the public and Congress).<br /><br />Back in the 80s, in particular, speaking up against USFS old-growth management practices and the fact that the USFS overall harvest in the PNW was about twice that of legally-mandated sustained yield levels got you reassigned, demoted, or fired depending on the seriousness of your transaction (i.e. how loudly you spoke the truth).<br /><br />The organization that grew to protect USFS whistleblowers then expanded to become PEER, as the problem in general was by no means restricted to the USFS.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55579173236319825312013-02-15T20:15:44.006-05:002013-02-15T20:15:44.006-05:00trrll:
"Over the years, the Senate has made ...trrll:<br /><br />"Over the years, the Senate has made filibuster rules more and more friendly to obstructionism, thereby enhancing the power of individual Senators at the expense of the Senate and the nation as a whole. "<br /><br />The relevant changes were in the 1970s.<br /><br />First came the changes in the 1970s to allow multi-tracking of senate bills. LBJ, as majority leader in the 1950s, had gotten the first civil rights bill passed through the senate in large part by manipulating the calendar so other legislation near-and-dear to dixiecrats were blocked until the civil rights bill was passed. Byrd, a Dixiecrat at the time, wrote the multi-track rules (which meant that filibustering didn't block other legislation) and helped get them passed in the early 1970s.<br /><br />Then later in the 1970s came the second part, dropping the majority requirement from 2/3 to 3/5, but also removing the need to hold the floor while filibustring.<br /><br />These three changes led to the unintended consequences we see today. At first those in the Senate didn't seem to understand the consequences of the three changes working in concert.<br /><br />But, boy, have republicans figured it out now ... <br /><br />There have been no recent changes responsible for the increase in filibustering.<br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-58328745390830122482013-02-15T18:44:44.666-05:002013-02-15T18:44:44.666-05:00Since Barry brought up Monnett.
Where has Union o...Since Barry brought up Monnett.<br /><br />Where has Union of Concerned Scientists been throughout the whole sorry Monnett inquisition?<br /><br />It didn't take a genius to see from almost the getgo that Monnett was being unduly harassed for reasons that had nothing to do with science.<br /><br />The "we need to let the investigation take its course" excuse that UCS effectively gave sounded like something straight from the mouth of George Bush during the Scooterpie Libby affair. <br /><br />UCS might have to remove "concerned" from their name after this -- to avoid false advertising.<br /><br />Seems like they just didn't give a damn in the case of Monnett.<br /><br /> ~@:>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-70421092564055891832013-02-15T16:51:35.618-05:002013-02-15T16:51:35.618-05:00Over the years, the Senate has made filibuster rul...Over the years, the Senate has made filibuster rules more and more friendly to obstructionism, thereby enhancing the power of individual Senators at the expense of the Senate and the nation as a whole. While the filibuster has some value, we need a return to the standard that the filibuster must require a real, ongoing commitment, requiring that Senators actually stand up and talk in order to engage in a filibuster.trrllhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03531295155777816765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-91916154094996899882013-02-15T15:50:49.497-05:002013-02-15T15:50:49.497-05:00O/T
Further vindication for Dr Charles Monnett.
...O/T<br /><br />Further vindication for Dr Charles Monnett.<br /><br />http://www.peer.org/news/news-releases/2013/02/14/drowned-polar-bear-paper-vindicated-%E2%80%93-again/<br /><br />barry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34020528978446209452013-02-15T15:28:49.880-05:002013-02-15T15:28:49.880-05:00There should be plenty of pieces to pick up. It we...There should be plenty of pieces to pick up. It went terminal and parabolic at the end of the run.<br /><br />I already saw photos of a couple of pieces around the lake impact site. They could be carbonaceaous, they are rather dark and someone is already hawking black stones.<br /><br />Smith and Rohrabacker are already calling for hearing too! I've got a space program to sell those guys. Too bad it all just got cut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-40684917928800855772013-02-15T13:38:30.531-05:002013-02-15T13:38:30.531-05:00... all that the vested interests need at this poi...<a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tom-toles/post/friday-rant-freedom-edition/2013/02/14/ed4834d8-76b7-11e2-8f84-3e4b513b1a13_blog.html" rel="nofollow">... all that the vested interests need at this point is enough political power to prevent anything from changing much. And, well, well, what do you know?!!! </a>Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-85238453373664865972013-02-15T12:11:01.160-05:002013-02-15T12:11:01.160-05:00OT: Extremely rare meteor event in Russia. Sonic b...OT: Extremely rare meteor event in Russia. Sonic boom from exploding fireball injured lots of people, mostly cuts from broken glass. No deaths reported. Loads of videos, lots of extraordinary data.<br />Be really cool if they can estimate the orbit and if they pick up pieces. The 'popping' noises after the boom are likely due to fragments exploding.<br /><br />From Snow BunnyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-7352375357684198742013-02-15T12:03:58.777-05:002013-02-15T12:03:58.777-05:00"I'm always accurate. You could learn to ..."I'm always accurate. You could learn to be, too. It isn't as hard as might think."<br /><br /><br />;-)<br /><br />That made me laugh in a good light hearted way.<br /><br />Hey have a great weekend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-66779979128310673512013-02-15T11:51:47.209-05:002013-02-15T11:51:47.209-05:00"We do not agree on much and this might get y..."We do not agree on much and this might get you in trouble with your pals here, but I agree with you 100% on the filibuster rules changes and do appreciate the accurate historical information that you provided."<br /><br />I'm always accurate. You could learn to be, too. It isn't as hard as might think.<br /><br />dhogazanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-84130114061980268522013-02-15T11:01:49.126-05:002013-02-15T11:01:49.126-05:00The rethuglicans have no incentive to make things ...The rethuglicans have no incentive to make things work--after all, their entire thesis is that government can never accomplish any good, and they devote all their efforts in government to proving that. Republicans have gone even beyond conservatism, beyond libertarianism to anarchism and nihilism. The are the enemies of civil society.<br /><br />a_ray seems to be on his way to be the next mass shooter in the country. <br /><br /><br />Dhogaza,<br />We do not agree on much and this might get you in trouble with your pals here, but I agree with you 100% on the filibuster rules changes and do appreciate the accurate historical information that you provided.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com