tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post1258947899655016393..comments2024-03-19T03:14:04.172-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Welcome NewsEliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-15962892047809144322012-04-16T23:39:18.808-04:002012-04-16T23:39:18.808-04:00O/T (sorry)
PEER have released some new material ...O/T (sorry)<br /><br />PEER have released some new material on the Charles Monnett case, notably, the transcript for last October's interview with Monnett's co-author on the Polar Bear monograph, Jeffrey Gleason.<br /><br />http://www.peer.org/news/news_id.php?row_id=1570<br /><br /><i>"The seemingly interminable probe also leaves Interior scientists fearful about career risks they face in overseeing Arctic research contracts, according to documents released today by Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility (PEER)."</i>barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12419101193566520809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-358978581891513362012-04-16T01:03:05.155-04:002012-04-16T01:03:05.155-04:00The American Physical Society found that their pub...The American Physical Society found that their publishing costs didn't change very much when they "went electronic." They do less printing on dead trees (paper), but the cost of preparing the articles stayed nearly the same. <br /><br />There is a very important price difference between the journals published by the learned societies (e.g., Physical Review) and the truly extortionate journals published by for-profit publishers.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575837647825433144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-57176083440673362552012-04-15T22:22:43.387-04:002012-04-15T22:22:43.387-04:00toto I don't know what you're experience i...toto I don't know what you're experience is, but I have a hard time imagining that sending out some scripted email messages to potential or actual reviewers even remotely approaches the time required to carefully review and comment on a paper, especially when you consider the amount of time and energy expended to get the necessary expertise to be able to do so.<br /><br />And I'm not sure why you think eLife can't compete with Nature or Science. Generalist journals with a print edition have real issues in terms of accessibility and organization, tending more and more to shunt important information into supplements that are not available in the print edition and which completely disrupt the flow of the paper.Jim Bouldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10062200124702011010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-55305321967912862342012-04-15T18:46:15.581-04:002012-04-15T18:46:15.581-04:00Wake me up when someone with the big bucks decides...Wake me up when someone with the big bucks decides to launch a third <i>generalist</i> journal on an open-access basis. <br /><br />This eLife thing is not a competitor to Nature or Science - but ironically enough, it would definitely be a competitor to open-access PLoS biology!<br /><br /><i>Peer review is UNCOMPENSATED for, i.e. it is free work provided by researchers</i><br /><br />Yeah, but the editing isn't. And I don't mean the design and printing stuff, I mean the actual process of choosing adequate reviewers, contacting them, cajoling them to accept, finding others if they don't, then entering the never-ending cycle of nagging reviewers every month about actually returning their reviews, preferably within this century. <br /><br />And that's before you start doing any actual editing, i.e. finding out how to turn the semi-coherent ramblings that usually constitute both the paper and the reviews into something that won't send readers into spontaneous catatonia.<br /><br />Editors get a rough deal. Journals that can pay professional editors really add value. Which isn't to mean that their prices aren't extortionate, of course.totohttp://toto.club-med.sonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-22060549550131130712012-04-15T15:51:19.425-04:002012-04-15T15:51:19.425-04:00But as Andrew Gelman noted Wiley Wegman chutzpah u...But as Andrew Gelman noted <a href="http://andrewgelman.com/2011/09/wiley-wegman-chutzpah-update/" rel="nofollow">Wiley Wegman chutzpah update: Now you too can buy a selection of garbled Wikipedia articles, for a mere $1400-$2800 per year!</a><br /><br />And then, when they are found to be plagiarized, <a href="http://deepclimate.org/2012/03/16/wiley-coverup-complete-wegman-and-said-redo-hides-plagiarism-and-errors/" rel="nofollow">they just quietly redo the articles.</a>John Masheynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-84015424874740512522012-04-15T14:28:00.770-04:002012-04-15T14:28:00.770-04:00From the Guardian piece:
"Publishers of the ...From the Guardian piece:<br /><br />"Publishers of the academic journals, which can cost universities up to €20,000 (£16,500) a year each to access, argue the price is necessary to sustain a high-quality peer review process."<br /><br />HA HA HA HA, that's the best one I've heard since April 1. Peer review is UNCOMPENSATED for, i.e. it is free work provided by researchers, from which the publishers benefit directly. Furthermore, there are still typically page charges levied at many journals, in addition to the large journal subscription costs levied on all institutional subscribers.<br /><br />Who in the world do these people think they're fooling?Jim Bouldinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10062200124702011010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-34352523227331168652012-04-15T10:12:31.860-04:002012-04-15T10:12:31.860-04:00and, gack, another similar one:
Microryza (review...and, gack, another similar one:<br /> <a href="https://www.microryza.com/" rel="nofollow">Microryza</a> (reviewed at <a href="http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/04/microryza-crowd-funding-science/" rel="nofollow">ubergizmo</a>)Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-64395131152495268942012-04-14T20:19:58.156-04:002012-04-14T20:19:58.156-04:00Speaking of research, an investment opportunity (h...Speaking of research, an investment opportunity (hat tip to contrarybrin)<br /><br />http://www.petridish.org/Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.com