tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post115919607690582663..comments2024-03-18T03:27:18.777-04:00Comments on Rabett Run: Dead scientists society....*EliRabetthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1160883867152835602006-10-14T23:44:00.000-04:002006-10-14T23:44:00.000-04:00On reflection, a less agressive: You are wrong, th...On reflection, a less agressive: You are wrong, these are the facts, would do fineEliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1159314397369386912006-09-26T19:46:00.000-04:002006-09-26T19:46:00.000-04:00Ask not whether the RP crowd believes Hansen is wi...Ask not whether the RP crowd believes Hansen is wishing them a speedy non-recovery.<BR/><BR/>Ask if they think it is a club that they can use to beat Hansen. <BR/><BR/>Remember the agressive cringe strategy on both of the RP blogs. Say something outrageous and then try and then criticize anyone who reacts strongly as being overwrought.<BR/><BR/>Which is why it is stupid to start a post to any RP with "Thank you for the very good, intelligent discussion here".<BR/><BR/>Much better is "You don't have a clue, stop pretending you do, and here is why"EliRabetthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07957002964638398767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1159292921351690652006-09-26T13:48:00.000-04:002006-09-26T13:48:00.000-04:00Actually, Hansen's criticism was clearly leveled a...Actually, Hansen's criticism was clearly leveled at those who deny the reality of anthropogenic global warming. Roger Pielke Sr is not even in that group. <BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, this whole thing has become personalized in a way that is not good either for the science or the scientists involved.<BR/><BR/>With a few exceptions, the people most responsible for the current sad state of affairs are not the scientists themselves, but the think think tanks and corporations with a vested interest in opposing action on global warming who have been stirring the pot for over a decade now trying to encourage such animosity among scientists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1159248431661909282006-09-26T01:27:00.000-04:002006-09-26T01:27:00.000-04:00but do people like RP sr really interpret Hansen's...<I><BR/>but do people like RP sr really interpret Hansen's statement as a personal threat?<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Scientists pride themselves on their ability to accept evidence-based logical arguments. Planck's observation is widely known, but it seems to me most scientists behave as if they believe they are special, and not subject to it. (Certainly they seem more capable of accepting evidence-based logical arguments than ordinary folk. But not perfectly capable.) Hansen's remark blatantly implies that global warming denialists are unable to accept evidence-based logical arguments. It is not at all surprising a scientist who disagreed with the consensus would find this highly insulting; much the reverse. RP Sr's reaction is every bit as consistent with my understanding of human behavior as Hansen's remark is. However, I am neither scientist nor a psychologist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1159226870655677762006-09-25T19:27:00.000-04:002006-09-25T19:27:00.000-04:00A very good point about a very bad point.But I'm s...A very good point about a very bad point.<BR/><BR/>But I'm still confused. I thought the earth had been wobbling on its axis for some time now.<BR/><BR/>Apparently, it just stops on a dime and then starts up again at some later time??<BR/><BR/>It must be great to live in the world that some of these reporters and politicians live in, where physical laws can be suspended without a second (or even Frist) thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1159211756007434452006-09-25T15:15:00.000-04:002006-09-25T15:15:00.000-04:00Good pointer.Speaking of noise, further down in th...Good pointer.<BR/>Speaking of noise, further down in the Denver Post article is this terrifying statement, without citation:<BR/><BR/>"At some point the Earth will wobble on its axis again, setting the stage for an ice age."<BR/><BR/>I suppose our task is to find that point and steer the Earth away from it?Hank Robertshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07521410755553979665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16612221.post-1159198745369093932006-09-25T11:39:00.000-04:002006-09-25T11:39:00.000-04:00I can see why some might find it offensive to be c...I can see why some might find it offensive to be characterized as "noise", but do people like RP sr really interpret Hansen's statement as a personal threat?<BR/><BR/>Absurd as that would be, it sure seems that this is the way it is being interpreted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com